Your Mileage May Vary: Smaller Is Better! Cheating Etiquette, Squirting In Faces, 2023 Sex Count

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[00:00] Keith: Hello and welcome to your mileage may vary. We talk about sex and relationships with frankness that is often controversial but mostly in good faith. We've got lots to cover today including who to blame in a cheating situation. A woman who claims to prefer small dicks a rather unusual description of how penises smell.
[00:08] Mike: Um, yes, yeah yeah.
[00:19] Keith: And more I'm Keith my co-host is Mike hello mike this is our 100 this is our one hundred and fiftieth episode
[00:21] Mike: Hello Keith yeah, we just keep growing and growing. Um I hope one day to reach the magnitude if if we how many how how how successful would we need to be for you for us to decide to. Put our faces out there on the internet pretty successful right? Oh wow money. Okay, so that's unlikely to happen.
[00:46] Keith: There'd have to be some money. Yeah. I Mean there are plenty of podcasts much smaller than ours who monetize. But yeah, and the right,. It's not worth it right.
[00:57] Mike: Yeah, it's a question I mean it's just when you're dealing with small amounts of monetizing. You're just making your listeners lives miserable for no point.
[01:06] Keith: Yeah, that amount of money doesn't make a difference to you or me so it's not worth it. Um, yeah, what do you have for us.
[01:09] Mike: Right? Yeah, okay.
[01:17] Mike: Oh I had 1 yeah so I had I talked to a friend of the show. Ah because I wanted to run my something we talked about or I talked about last week on the show by him and it was this notion that I'm not sure I framed perfectly. But that I was arguing that women would have more fun. Would they would enjoy sex more if they ah viewed it or tried in general viewing it more as a dominant submissive kind of game than as an intimacy experience. So the basic argument is that men I think by and large do view sex that way they're doing this thing to a woman and it's a thing. Men fantasize about and get into men view it as intimate as well. But this is a really important I think way a part of the male kind of fantasy around sex whereas I think women typically view it much more in intimacy terms like oh I'm doing this thing with my boyfriend. We were talking about blowjobs when this came up.
[02:06] Keith: Sure.
[02:12] Mike: And so I was arguing that and I think I was a little inarticulate because I think that I implied that um, let's see I'm not sure how I was inarticulate but the point is the point I want to make is that like I I was I'm basically suggesting that. I Guess I was inarticulate because a woman can do both at the same time right? She can view it as intimacy and then have a more submissive role and women typically have more submissive roles in sex and I guess the thing I'm saying is to sort of double down on this intimacy. Ah sorry on the submission element and have that be like more of a focal point. So This friend of the show was saying that he.
[02:35] Keith: Okay.
[02:46] Mike: Has often on had sex with a girl who he says he thinks does this really? well and I was interested in this and basically she has had experiences in her life where she kind of was able to come to the conclusion as a woman she feels like she has a good understanding of what men are looking for in sex like maybe ah, unusually.
[03:00] Keith: Okay.
[03:03] Mike: Accurate understanding for a woman meaning that she's like look guys just want to fuck. They want to fuck they want to get in there and fuck right? Ok yeah, they just want to dominate they want to do this thing that you know and and and basically she has told this guy that ah she.
[03:07] Keith: Yes, yeah, it's the mechanical physical thing.
[03:21] Mike: Found it liberating and really improved her experience of sex when she basically did what I'm suggesting she sort of said. Okay, yeah, this is what guys want and I'm going to play the ah the corresponding role as a woman I'm going to be like yeah fuck me like I'm I'm I'm submitting to you and and sort of really get into that role and.
[03:31] Keith: M.
[03:38] Mike: She's just very realistic about it. It doesn't have to impact her relationships outside of the bedroom. But yeah, that and she's like amps up her experience significantly.
[03:44] Keith: Well now I think it would definitely improve casual sexual encounters because casual sexual encounters tend to have less intimacy I mean the man can simulate it. But it's probably halfhearted at best and the woman can probably tell which is probably why women often feel sort of used in 1 nights stand or short-term sexual and encounter situations. So I definitely think that if a woman could sort of ah.
[04:04] Mike: Um, ah.
[04:15] Mike: Um, sure.
[04:19] Keith: Tease out her sort of Baseline intimacy hopes and dreams from those kinds of sexual encounters that they would feel that they may enjoy sex more or at least feel badly about it after less ah was this woman.
[04:33] Mike: Okay.
[04:37] Keith: Ah, yeah, what? what kinds of sexual encounters was this woman having.
[04:40] Mike: Both I mean it would it would it would compass both types of situations. It's basically like a a decision right? reached about how she approaches sex with men period.
[04:45] Keith: Um, okay.
[04:48] Keith: So Even with a sort of longer term more stable partners ones with which she would like to have intimacy with generally she she might argue that. Focusing on that less and on the sort of physical and submissive aspects more and improved her sexual experiences.
[05:11] Mike: Yes, and I mean in fact, with as with any it's typically the case that most of of a person's sexual encounters in their life happen with non casual partners just because once you are in a relationship. It's easier to sort of initiate and so forth.
[05:27] Keith: Yeah.
[05:29] Mike: And so I would say it's It's no different for her. She actually in fact has more with a committed partners and I see you've you've drawn a distinction there. You think it sounds like you think that this is a less optimal strategy potentially in a relationship for them for the partners to continue to. Operate in this way or sort of explore their sexuality this way.
[05:49] Keith: Yeah, I'm not sure I'm not sure I think even in long-term relationships. Maybe even especially in ah you know marriages or or particularly long relationships. The men might be kind of shitheads after the sexual encounter. Might roll over and fall asleep. They might not put the same amount of effort into after care and and cuddling and pillow talk because she's in the bag. You know they're not. They're not trying to to woo her anymore and so ah, it.
[06:09] Mike: Um, sure.
[06:21] Mike: You could see that also in a short term situation though right? because like let's say you have a one night stand like the guy has nothing to gain really in most case I guess your thought the guy usually is thinking. Oh maybe I could do this again. So then he might cuddle or something.
[06:32] Keith: Yeah, it depends Yeah like in something that's an obviously one night standard situation yet neither party should be coming to that hoping for their intimacy needs to be met and then.
[06:44] Mike: I Guess I guess one of the part of what I'm saying though is I question I guess it fundamentally questions the value at least of near term after care right? I suppose there's I think there's a significant difference for men rolling over and falling asleep. Obviously he's then asleep so there's no way to do care. But if you're talking about put. Pose not clarity I think for most men that doesn't last that long and so it's just I mean on some level. You're just extending the I'm not totally sure about this but I could I as I said last week I could Imagine. Ah, a woman staying in that sort of submissive role for a period of time after the guy of Orgasm just be like yeah like this is he's used me or whatever he's I'm so I've submitted to him and he doesn't want to do after care yet I don't know it did.
[07:27] Keith: Yeah, yeah I don't know like I think some people might listen to this and think we're advocating that sex is purely physical and that there's no ah, nothing to be gained by considering it as an emotionally emotionally bonding activity I don't think.
[07:43] Mike: That's definitely not the point because there's an emotional content to dominance dominance and submission. There's emotional content to these 2 different roles that men and women have coming into the the bedroom. Um, it's just you're playing out those roles. Go ahead.
[07:47] Keith: Sure? yeah, but I think the party line I think the party line on sex is that it's meant to be some sort of 3 level bonding experience. You know, physical mental and emotional. And you know, ah people get a bunch of those needs met through through sex and by arguing that they should ignore or cordon off at least some of those aspects might be.
[08:11] Mike: The.
[08:22] Keith: I don't I don't know the the right Ex expression isn't victim blaming but it's like sort of missing the point or something but I don't think that's what you're saying I think what you're saying is something more like leaning in to the physical aspects and ah. Not necessarily leaning away from the emotional aspects but but more so ah, not yeah so like an example, you just brought up might be yeah like after sex there might be like certain hopes that are. Often dashed because men are want to be a little bit lame after they're once they enter the post not clarity and if a woman could could just sort of internalize like look like this is how men are they have this like sort of physical trough after they've orgasmed.
[09:06] Mike: Um, ah.
[09:17] Keith: Um, an emotional trough as well. And yeah, just like understanding that and instead of taking that personally being like oh like that sort of is implying a job well done on my part. Um and and leaning into the submissive aspect of of what that sort of implies might.
[09:36] Keith: Could result in average I Higher average reported satisfaction with sexual encounters.
[09:42] Mike: Yeah I mean that reminds me of the thing that this person reports of basically leaning in during the act at the beginning of the act and so forth where she basically you know leans into that that notion that look the guy wants to have this kind of. Very dominant physical encounter with me and instead of trying to guide it toward an emotional or shared intimacy encounter which is going to be anyway. I mean there's going to be a shared intimacy of course in the encounter but she basically played ah as chosen to adopt the role of like look yeah, do it to me like fucking take me like. You know own my body here and like the point is that it's just one data point. It's Anec Data of course, but it's like a person who genuinely and so she sort of selected that because she's like this I want to try this and she's like yeah this is much better like I I like sex more and that was sort of my suspicion is at least some people would have more fun.
[10:24] Keith: Um, sure.
[10:37] Mike: Women would have more fun if they could get out of their heads and just sort of alterar where their heads are and do that. So by the way um on this question of partnered. Let's see one night stands or short term versus long term I saw a stat yesterday that the average person in their.
[10:40] Keith: Yeah.
[10:48] Keith: Mean.
[10:55] Mike: I figured what the age range was but it was sort of like adult has sex 54 times this year had sex 54 times this year do you think that you have exceeded or where do you think you are on that you're under 54 okay interesting I don't know for me I'm not.
[11:03] Keith: Um, I'm definitely way under that. Definitely.
[11:15] Mike: I'm honestly not sure I didn't track. It's It's probably around right? It's on the order of correct.
[11:19] Keith: I would expect married people on average to be higher and unmarried people on average to be lower. There's so like probably the like you know the the top fifth the ninety fifth percentile ah probably or mostly unmarried people. Hell I don't know.
[11:32] Mike: Yeah, it's an interesting question. What made you so quick to say that you're under that like because you count or because you were just like there's no way.
[11:37] Keith: No because I just I I just haven't had any like long term partners this year and so the way that the way you wreck that the yeah like I was there was never a point where I was like living with anyone or traveling with anyone this year. That's that's where you like.
[11:44] Mike: I see and so like doing it once a week would beat you hard right.
[11:53] Mike: Nice here.
[11:56] Keith: But really rack those up. You know you get 5 or 6 a week or whatever and that just wasn't in the cards for me.
[11:59] Mike: Right? I mean in principle you could have you could have a succession of partners with whom you have sex 10 times each but you're saying that's kind of rare.
[12:09] Keith: Um, yeah, like lining those up back to back so that there's no gaps is very very tricky.
[12:12] Mike: Fair point fair point. Yeah, okay.
[12:20] Keith: Yeah, average is 54 okay it ended it was like ah people under 50 or something. Yeah.
[12:23] Mike: Something like that it was some there was some age category I don't remember that and yeah I mean my my what it looked like to me I mean just the logical thing is yeah this is pulled up by married or committed couples because they're going to be closer to I'm guessing. It's like closer to 100 for that. Cohort and then closer to zero for the for the other cohort I'm just completely guessing here. Yeah.
[12:43] Keith: Right? right? right? Yeah I would expect there to be some ah some modes in that in that data I don't know it's I don't know if it's bimodal or trimodal or what but.
[12:53] Mike: Um, I mean from from all as far as I can tell right? as far as I can tell Langston and Uncle Tony over at the having fun hobbying subreddit are in the thousands for this year like those guys. Yeah, really big numbers. They've put up. So.
[13:10] Keith: The yeah for the newer listeners. That's the ah prostitute. That's the subreddit that discusses maximizing prostitution and minimizing expense.
[13:21] Mike: It's HfH. They actually have a discord and a private. This is great. Actually they have it I don't know if I've said this on the podcast. They have a and I'm not on it. They have a discord in a private subreddit that you the only way you can get on it is if you submit a video of yourself fucking a prostitude which of course you could just fake. Um, right, you could fake that but still, it's like and the thing is because ah like a base I know right? I don't know I mean it's the it's the moderators of well that none of the videos are that great because they sometimes post them and it's like the women are not that excited I mean sometimes they're a Try. It's not great, right? But anyway.
[13:43] Keith: Who's gatekeeping that What a what a career right.
[13:54] Keith: Now.
[13:58] Mike: Ah, they keep like the problem they had or have had is that when they post these videos to the wire to the subreddit they get like in trouble with Reddit because I mean I'm not sure what the laws are on that. Yeah, like it's in and then a lot of them are done in foreign countries. It's just not clear what the rules are about that and so they've moved it off but I mean.
[14:08] Keith: Ah, that's nonconsent. Yeah.
[14:18] Mike: I Guess I should say that ah it's I don't think it's particularly ethical to film yours and a lot of them are definitely doing it on the down low meaning they put some phone on this on its side and then the prostitute says are you filming and he says no ah that's definitely unethical I Don't think there's any place where that's ethical or or appropriate.
[14:23] Keith: Right? yeah.
[14:35] Keith: Right.
[14:37] Mike: If they've gotten consent and basically they're filming a porn. Well okay, you know that's different. But I mean typically you would need to get a signed thing. You need to check their age. There's various stuff you're supposed to do right? so.
[14:40] Keith: Um, right ran it.
[14:44] Keith: Yeah huh yeah I mean I wonder I wonder how many times a year somebody who was yeah, just trying to ring the bell as many times could could get probably is just his time. Time allows. Yes, yeah, if they're willing to pay. Yeah you, you could probably get into the 500 or something couple of day.
[15:03] Mike: Do you allow escorts or not because then it's just a question of money. Oh if you're willing to pay I mean I would I would assume it's just well isn't there I mean I know they're these famous like Wilt chamberlain. Um.
[15:18] Keith: It was what it was will chamberlain. He claims 10000 I'm not sure.
[15:18] Mike: There's someone there're they're various people like that that claim numbers and like isn't there some rapper or something also okay I think there are few that are in the thousands to ten thousand and and the um, that's difficult to do across say thirty years ten thousand I mean 10000 I think they're ten thousand days and 30 years something like that right? So yeah, you're you're clocking in around one a day for 30 years that's pretty I mean I think that requires escorts pretty much realistically.
[15:37] Keith: Yes.
[15:46] Keith: Yeah, because you can't tolerant. You can't tolerate airbars right? like you're you're flirting with a girl but then she gets cold feet like yeah, you can't tolerate that. So yeah, like maybe the way wilt did it I don't know how Wilt did it I mean it's not like there was Instagram.
[15:54] Mike: Um, right.
[16:00] Mike: Well, he could be lying. Maybe there's like you know that you know alt Boob world. You know that is all it's the Alt Boob world.
[16:02] Keith: With girls sliding into his Dms.
[16:09] Keith: Yeah, but that was before Wilt's time as well. Oh isn't that a ah a what was it called a news group.
[16:17] Mike: Wow I don't no no, you're thinking of alt being like the beginning of a news group name like there was allt dot sex and Allt thought whatever yeah I remember those things now this is a subreddit called AltBoobWorld spell just like it sounds which is a the premise is it's a world in which women just.
[16:21] Keith: Yeah, yeah, oh.
[16:35] Mike: Dress with their boobs out all the time. Ah or they can and so if you go to the top all time. It's kind of compelling because you'll have women who yeah I mean well famous or not famously. But I've read before that there have been errors of history maybe in the eighteenth or seventeenth centuries when. There were some female clothing styles like at the courts you know, like ah the court of France or whatever where it was okay was considered okay to have your boobs out anyway. Typically in history. There's not much evidence of women having their boobs out in Europe and sort of Asia.
[17:12] Keith: Aha yeah.
[17:13] Mike: Kind of outside of intimate settings and ah so all Boober Worlds is this idea that like no, there's a world where women do do this a lot and I was imagining. You could have like alt fuck world or something where it's just yeah, if you had a world where or some kind of situation where. Every woman was free use somehow? Well then you could rack up those kinds of numbers. But it's quite hard to do yeah.
[17:30] Keith: Right? I'm distracted by perusing the top all time at old Poop Poop world.
[17:39] Mike: Yeah I mean it's just there. There's some that are like there's one I think it's one of the top that a woman she her premise is that she's got her ah running bra. What do they call this things sports bra but she cuts out the nipples so they're sticking out. Yeah, that's an example of one of the things.
[17:49] Keith: Sports pro. Yeah yep I I see her all right I'll look at this later we have radio show to here. Okay, um, okay, there was a ah.
[17:58] Mike: Yeah, okay.
[18:06] Keith: Cheating situation here that I wanted to run by you. So this person says I gave a guy a blowjob over the weekend not knowing he was married and his wife is threatening me now I met a guy with some friends at a bar went to another place and's throwing the details I gave him a blowjob we exchange phone numbers this was Friday Sunday he texted me telling me he couldn't believe I made him come.
[18:06] Mike: Okay.
[18:24] Keith: Twice little confused about she she uses a blowjob so singular blowjob and now he's coming twice. Well anyway.
[18:31] Mike: I saw a porn I saw a porn yesterday where that happened it was it was really odd. It was this porn. It's this couple I'm not sure if I posted it to my subreddit which now is 20000 subscribers called curated amateur porn. But ah, just a little plug.
[18:46] Keith: Ah, yeah, good job slipped it right in there.
[18:48] Mike: But the ah um, it's it's it was this it was. It's this per this couple the post on pornhub and then on red gifts or whatever it is um and the woman always looks unhappy. You would like it Keith because the woman always looks unhappy when he nuts in her mouth. So it.
[19:03] Keith: Now I don't know if I would like it but that that makes sense to me that she would be unhappy.
[19:06] Mike: Be right up your alley. She's yeah, she's got this kind of like frowny expression and she's like oh that was a lot like it's kind of yeah so I mean it's obviously they're and they havet only fans and it's it must be their the the little game they're playing but there there was one blow that she gave him because I went through several of them where he's so excited that he comes.
[19:16] Keith: Okay, that.
[19:25] Mike: And then he's like I'm still. It's like he's I'm not sure if he's play acting not but he's just he just keeps saying I'm still coming I'm still coming and then more comes out and so it's as if he comes for like 45 seconds straight I know the thing is that you see that semen come out.
[19:33] Keith: Um, like that isn't doesn't corroborate any experience I've ever had.
[19:43] Mike: I know the semen comes out. You see it come out at the end. There's clearly semen what 2 different times within 40 we have looked at videos before where things like this happen. Yeah, so anyway. Okay.
[19:52] Keith: We have? yeah I mean we we we suspect some kind of medical agent took play like ah yeah, all right? Let's move on.
[20:00] Mike: Could be could be I could be a drug could be right? The various possibilities for sure. Well we didn't finish with that. Are you, you're continuing the question. Ok.
[20:09] Keith: Ah Sunday texts me telling me with what? yeah yeah Sunday he texted me telling me he couldn't believe I made him come twice and he'd love to get together again I told him I'm glad he enjoyed it that I had a lot of fun too and we'd have to see about getting together again last night I got a very angry text from a stranger number and it was his wife.
[20:16] Mike: Right.
[20:22] Mike: Yeah.
[20:28] Keith: Told me if I'm going to be a whore and suck random guys dicks that I need to make sure that they're not married.. The thing is I did talk to him about this big surprise we discussed how I just got out of a long marriage and him divorced and he told me he never got married I told her I did ask him and he wasn't wearing a ring and she just. Kept calling me a slut and I turned off my notifications and went to bed this morning I woke up to 20 messages. They're all just calling me a horrorre and a slut and a homewrecker how they have kids that have just ruined their poor baby's Lives. So as I'm concerned I did nothing wrong I went out to a yeah.
[20:54] Mike: Um, kind of cool. Why how did she ruin their their lives by blowing him I mean the wife could just ignore it but okay, it's it's completely in the wife's head right? Yeah, okay.
[21:05] Keith: Yeah, and as far as I'm concerned I did nothing wrong I went out to a bar I asked him and he lied to me should I call the police I don't think she has any way of knowing where I live she just has my phone number. Well if it's not an unlisted phone number. She does know where you live I don't think I ever told him where I work but I'm not positive I also would on Facebook's or anything. And replied I'm considering telling her once again that I did ask him. He's the one you need to be mad at and then I'm blocking her number and I'll tell the police if she contacts me plug it in okay, all right few things here mike why do women get so mad at the woman their man cheated on her with like why is she not mad at her. Husband.
[21:44] Mike: I Bet you were going to say why do women? Why do these women who are distributing blowjobs randomly always miss me like where where are all these women. Um, yeah I mean like look like ah.
[21:50] Keith: Yeah, yeah, where is this note phone number she hands out. So so generously.
[21:59] Mike: It's actually sort of true like I really in my life have not encountered a whole lot of women just giving out blowjobs like this kind of right like like women kind of guard this stuff more than that. But I okay they were at they were at a bar they were hanging out. She got drunk. Okay, yeah, that's fine I hear you it's she.
[22:07] Keith: Well, they were at a bar. Maybe he was being charming. You could work on that 1
[22:18] Mike: Yeah I know no, that's not happening but she she ah I'm never going to be charming enough for that but she she implies that gosh she implies that there was just very little barrier to entry toward giving the blow. But I know there must have been a significant barrier to entry. He did something and yeah, that's okay so to your point he had to really make this happen.
[22:36] Keith: Right.
[22:37] Mike: Didn't just happen. She wasn't just distributing it and yeah, his wife should be mad at him and she did nothing wrong. That's right? and why is she mad at her well because she's irrational right.
[22:51] Keith: Um, I mean the The O P claims that she asked the man if he was married now that that she asked him that implies that maybe she was suspicious right.
[22:56] Mike: Um, yeah.
[23:03] Mike: She might have said something like you're not married. Are you like because maybe he's like more attractive or more accomplished than the average guy at the bar and like that would if I was a woman if I were a woman and I were at a bar. Yeah, there's a certain man. There's a certain class of man where I would be suspicious that they were marrying.
[23:09] Keith: Right? Yeah, um.
[23:22] Keith: Yeah.
[23:23] Mike: Right? Like like it's just like this is too good to be true like how are you still single like some guy that just like has a really good job. A lot of money like whatever, really attractive.
[23:26] Keith: Right? But I think we both I think we both agree. There's no obligation on her part to like vet that the man is single right right? And of course not yeah.
[23:40] Mike: Oh Of course Yeah,, she's completely not in the wrong here. It's to the point where I feel like and ah ah ah if you weren't afraid for her safety because this other woman's irrational like ah a reasonable response would be to like send her a picture of like. You know her mouth and be like look I've still got a little of your husband's semen in here like just to make fun of her like I think like just trolling her would be kind of appropriate here. Yeah, like oh man I Loved gargling your husband's semen.
[23:56] Keith: Ah, right? Yeah yeah, this yeah like this woman ah threatening her and calling her all these names is just wildly misdirected and inappropriate.
[24:13] Mike: Um, well, it's terrible because it's actually frightening right? having somebody like kind of yelling at you like that in an irrational way. It's frightening on the other hand if you can separate yourself from that the notion of somebody just sending you again and again messages calling you a whore is kind of funny.
[24:16] Keith: Right.
[24:27] Mike: Because it's just so insane right? It's like what like you didn't have to send me 30 messages saying this just send one I got it I got the I got the message like and I mean and of course there's also like I guess there's like loosely here you can see the um the I think the reality that that that something.
[24:27] Keith: Right. Right.
[24:47] Mike: Significantly higher than 50% of slut shaming comes from women not men like right? Oh do you just give blows to any guy like guys don't okay, a guy might say something like that. But the the tone of that come sounds very female to me. It's not surprising. It was a woman.
[24:48] Keith: Oh for sure.
[24:58] Keith: If but man said that like if gay men were talking about that. It would be oh yeah, it would be in jest like oh you'll just blow anyone right? like it. It wouldn't be like judgey. It would be yeah, almost almost a high 5
[25:07] Mike: Um, yes I mean a guy might say it to a woman a guy might say it to woman in it in a negative way, but it it just I Just think it would be much more likely to come from a woman because I think most slut shaming comes from women. Yeah.
[25:23] Keith: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[25:27] Mike: So yeah, she did. She did nothing wrong like what she supposed to do what level of vetting is appropriate for a guy you meet at the bar I mean what she's supposed to do and like the guy gosh I mean like the how did did they say how this how the wife found out because that's.
[25:42] Keith: Ah, no now just as last night I got a very angry text from a strange number and it was his wife I bet she checked his text messages.
[25:44] Mike: Okay, that's an interesting question too right. Um, so he must have confessed or something.
[25:55] Mike: But you think that she put in there that she blew him like oh man your seaman was so sweet last night. Charlie.
[26:00] Keith: No, he texted her telling me he couldn't believe she made him come twice and so this his what I mean I was I mean considering he doesn't seem to have good operational security around his.
[26:06] Mike: Oh right I forgot Well why did he text her that.
[26:17] Mike: Um, would you would you ever text something like that to a woman like hey thanks for making me jizz down your throat. Even if you weren't cheating like what is that that is that feels like a text version of a dick dick pick girls. Don't want a text like that.
[26:17] Keith: Cell phone I'm assuming she read his text messages. Not if I were not if I was not if I was cheating up my girlfriend.
[26:32] Keith: Yeah, yeah, thanks for letting me use your body in this case, your mouth.
[26:36] Mike: Like oh man I yeah hate honey I I had 7 spurts instead of 5 which is normal like oh my god those last two spurts were so great like women don't want like that's not like I think ah to ah. In regards to our earlier discussion I think maybe women should be more interested in stuff like that but they generally aren't they want hey you know really it was nice. You know that was really fun. Can we do it again stuff like that. So ok, so so his wife found the text he did not confess and yes, operational security. He's an idiot and.
[26:55] Keith: Right. Right.
[27:07] Keith: We're assuming.
[27:10] Mike: And along that Axis guys if you do this just don't tell your wife just move on like it's dumb what you did and if you can tolerate the anxiety I would not be able to. But if you could tolerate the anxiety of just like having this lie or whatever this hidden truth there. You know the fear that like you're going to run into her sometime.
[27:26] Keith: Um, yeah.
[27:29] Mike: When you're out as a couple then just don't tell your wife because you're just making your life's wife's life worse and like you can't undo the blowcha. Um, stick the semen back in your cock.
[27:31] Keith: Um.
[27:35] Keith: Right? Yeah,, That's always an interesting question like if you think like let's say you can be 97% Sure your wife would stay with you. What does she gain By. Knowing this thing that's going to really hurt her feelings.
[27:58] Mike: Nothing. It's It's only a negative. It's yeah and and the thing is if ah for women if as a woman you find out that your husband did something like this and kept it from you I Actually think you should cut him slack on that now if you say hey. Cheating is like a total. No-go zone for me fine. That's appropriate but don't be like hey you should have told me the only time I think telling your wife might be appropriate is if you tell her before you do it like hey I want to open the marriage hey you know that's a little different. Um.
[28:16] Keith: Um, right right.
[28:25] Keith: Right? Yeah yeah I mean post hoc. Maybe it's worth bringing up if you think you're probable to do it again and you'd like to.
[28:28] Mike: Because you're asking permission more. But after you've done it like just shut the fuck up.
[28:38] Mike: But even then I wouldn't admit it I would say hey I want to do this I would make it future looking because I just think you're all, you're the only outcome of telling her that is you're just hurting her. There's there is no positive except maybe unburdening yourself.
[28:45] Keith: Interesting.
[28:53] Mike: And for that I would suggest joining a church like the Catholic Church and confessing you can go. In fact, you don't have to be catholic you can just go confess. You know if that's what you need like that's that's sort of the point of that is just off.
[29:01] Keith: Right? Yeah from like a game theoretic standpoint the woman gains nothing and depending on her level of emotionality could lose quite a bit.
[29:18] Mike: Yeah, it's going to destroy your sexual relationship at least for some period of time and it's probably permanently going to damage your emotional relationship right now if if she finds out that you did it and didn't tell her that will happen anyway. But.
[29:20] Keith: Ah, guess mm.
[29:28] Keith: Well, the trust stuff is probably gone forever.
[29:37] Mike: I Honestly see this is the thing is I think in these situations men think oh she's going to tell my wife they don't want to tell your wife like think it through like this is what it would happen right? It's not worth it and what she even going to get out of doing she'd have to be very spiteful and angry at you to do that.
[29:46] Keith: Um, yeah.
[29:55] Keith: Um, right right.
[29:55] Mike: She's probably just going to move on and so just yeah, just let it be and just move on and try to be a better person next time.
[30:01] Keith: Yeah, all right? Let's move on this person says I prefer small dicks. Basically the title I've tried smaller than average, average and huge and I like small ones the most fuck off I don't have much feelings inside.
[30:12] Mike: Signed Keith's girlfriend
[30:18] Keith: No matter the size or even skills she she means literally when she says I don't have much feelings inside um small dicks even feel better because I don't feel like I'm being torn apart. The best thing is I have more power with small dicks. They fit my mouth better and I can do more with them the look of guys losing themselves under me.
[30:24] Mike: Um, yeah.
[30:35] Mike: Um.
[30:37] Keith: Makes me look really powerful I'm now being with the I'm now being with the tiny stick I've been with which came as surprise because he is a humongous guy very tall and strong. But yes I know it's not correlated but still but hey it's a good surprise and I'm perfectly happy.
[30:39] Mike: Um, yeah.
[30:53] Keith: Can't tell him how much I love it because that would be the biggest backhanded compliment ever ll lo well edit it. Yes I Do tell him how much I love his dick and I do that very often. What I meant was that I couldn't tell him how much I love his small dick specifically so I'm sure I get here hoping it would boost some confidence edit to add, please refrain yourself from sending me Dick Pics 40 plus Pm requests and yours will just be another what I ignore and you'll be featured on Creepy Pms. So um.
[31:14] Mike: Um.
[31:18] Mike: P P P S P P S yes it's surprising that. Ah so a man with such a small penis as a podcast host about sex and relationships. It could be me. Yeah.
[31:28] Keith: Ah, so how does she her? How does she I don't not sure how much I believe this.
[31:36] Mike: Yes.
[31:42] Mike: The mouth thing I think is really very believable and I've actually wondered this This is another reason why I find your dislike of blowjobs irritating because this is an area where I don't know the exact dimensions of your penis I don't care. But I know it's sort of like not huge. Let's just say it's not huge fine. This is an area where where blowjobs excel because what she said seems right to me like like for me like yeah, you can't fit it all in your mouth., But there is a size where they can and that's kind of cool so they can effectively deep throat your cock without having to put it in their throat.
[32:03] Keith: Ah.
[32:18] Mike: Which seems really compelling. It seems like a real benefit of having a small penis and she's I thought she described that. Well.
[32:21] Keith: Um, yeah, but I think I think I think the size required to do that is pretty small like I think it's like I think it's like four inches or less or something.
[32:30] Mike: Yeah, that I don't know I'd have to like ah get a measuring tool here. Okay so that's so it's so small that like that would okay fine. But maybe this she said it was this okay okay, so this guy's tenth percentile but this guy probably is in that percentile. So it's.
[32:39] Keith: Um, like I think you're in like a ah ah tenth percentile penis or something.
[32:47] Mike: Yeah, set aside you and talk about this guy. He's ah this guy is in the tenth percentile probably and so yeah, that makes I so I don't I find that totally believable because she's basically like look I can put it all in my mouth which I could see being satisfying for the woman.
[32:48] Keith: Yeah.
[32:59] Keith: Um, without having to choke myself.
[33:03] Mike: Right? without having to do some weird Carnival trick with a sword swallower and stuff right? She could just put it in there and like kind of yeah like that it's yeah that I can I It makes sense to me intellectually that that makes blowjob that would look I think that basically all women would prefer giving a blow to a small penis than a big penis I think because of this.
[33:21] Keith: Ah, they might feel less submissive.
[33:22] Mike: Um, ah yeah, that's a good point. Maybe yes your excellent argumentation tactic and rhetoric there Keith yes, fair point. Yes, if the woman wants to be sort of like Asa the bias cock. But I think you're thinking more in the you're thinking more in the p I v.
[33:31] Keith: Thanks Mike yeah imposed upon.
[33:40] Mike: Domain that it's just can't be a positive right.
[33:42] Keith: I Mean there's an analogy in the Pi V Domain right? So there's some length of penis that reaches the back of the throat and then there's some length of penis that reaches the cervix I think it takes I don't know I think it takes.
[33:53] Mike: Are.
[33:58] Keith: More to reach the cervix. But I think there's more variability in women. They're actually I don't know remember a number of episodes ago we were curious about the the mean length from mouth entrance to throat I Don't think what.
[34:10] Mike: Yes.
[34:13] Keith: We we never. We took it as a note to try to find out what that is but we never got to the bottom of it. But yeah I don't know what? yeah but I yeah I don't know if there's more variability there than there is from vaginal canal opening to cervix I Just don't know.
[34:15] Mike: Right? I mean Also there are yeah the variabilities.
[34:27] Mike: The thing with the cervix is it also depends on like hormonal things time of the month and stuff like that like these these the positions of these things change and arousal level I should say that like so it.
[34:38] Keith: Um, like the the cervix lowers or something.
[34:42] Mike: Ah, yeah, it moves around. Ah there is a nice set of photos that a woman did of her she basically like uses a speculum on her vagina at each day of the of her cycle and yeah, there's there's points in her cycle where the cervix is basically like right inside like it's like it's it must be a couple of inches in
[34:55] Keith: Um, ah ah.
[35:02] Mike: And there' are situations where it's much cheap and then but then you know also with Arousal like it's sort of ah tense out as they call it right? So there's there's more space created when a woman's aroused and then also the position he's in if she's in the doggie style position then things are going to kind of be hanging down more so all these things matter. Um.
[35:02] Keith: Um, ah.
[35:14] Keith: Um, right right? right? yeah.
[35:20] Mike: I don't I mean that stuff I mean the other thing that she said that I vibe with was she said she doesn't have much sensation inside and that's just generally true women. Don't So this is why I yeah.
[35:24] Keith: Yeah, yeah I think that's right I Think that's right, Yeah, the the way that the way that women generally have orgasms from P I V is the man grinding his pubic bone on her clit there are other ways like if you get the right angle you can.
[35:37] Mike: Right? And but in general.
[35:42] Keith: Potentially reach the G spot with your dick but fingers are better.
[35:45] Mike: Right? The ah a woman should in general in my opinion Always within reason select the man with the Girth or penis over the longer penis because of because that's actually more relevant. It's It's more relevant to the entrance to her vagina. And is going to give her more sensation there whereas the length. Yeah, other than some sort of psychological stimulus or the rare woman who gets a lot out of like super deep penetration like yeah, it's not.. It's just not going to matter.
[36:14] Keith: Yeah, okay I agree with everything there all right? Let's move on. Um this is going to be a quick discussion but um, ah yeah.
[36:20] Mike: You can I ask you 1 question about this actually so one really quick question. So your penis without getting in a specific size. The woman you it is not small and it is. It is a size that where a woman needs to use or she can't like a typical woman can't fit the whole thing in her mouth is that right? okay.
[36:30] Keith: Um, ah.
[36:36] Keith: Correct. Yeah yeah.
[36:40] Mike: So you so yeah, there's a so yeah, it's basically you're in the same boat as every other guy basically but there are guys I've seen porns of it where where the woman just fucking Engulfs and and it's she's not swallowing it and I was like oh that's pretty cool and it's because he has a small penis.
[36:46] Keith: Um, yeah.
[36:50] Keith: Yeah I mean you've also seen the porn where the guy has like a ten inch dick and like somehow the woman can bury it to the hilt I don't understand.
[37:00] Mike: Um, yeah, it's like Morgue Pie Morg Pie who ah does the Amazon position and then right when he's coming she pops off of him and then just jams it down her throat like that's just that's I mean you know and you know one of the things they do is they spray chloroeptic in their mouth to do that.
[37:06] Keith: Right? right.
[37:15] Keith: So they don't get the gag reflex as much.
[37:16] Mike: Because it numbs the back of your throat. Yeah yeah, like that's the ah so and and the problem with that of course and as people can find if they use some research is that it can numb the guy's cock.
[37:30] Keith: So right.
[37:31] Mike: So it's say it's a kind of a tricky like the guy's not going to orgasm out for that. But like you can do like some crazy deep throat scenes now.
[37:37] Keith: Yeah I've read that you can get um, desensitizing stuff for your cock if you come too quickly. But if you use it and you don't use a condom then it can get on the woman and it desensitizes her as well.
[37:43] Mike: No.
[37:51] Mike: Sure.
[37:53] Keith: So they recommend using a gun. Um I mean if you're too If you're coming too quickly. Maybe you should use a condom anyway because that lowers the sensation.
[37:58] Mike: Yeah, when I was in college I was with a girl who got some of that stuff because she had like a procedure done on her teeth. You can just buy it I think it's like I forget what it's called, but you can buy this stuff at just a drugstore at least in the United States and it numbs your teeth and I was like oh let me try that on my cock and yeah it was.
[38:18] Keith: Hu so they should do some. They should do a Tickt Tock challenge where like you have to try to masturbate with that stuff all over your cock. Maybe you can't but the but the ticktock challenge people would find to find a way. Mike.
[38:18] Mike: Had a numb cock I don't know why I thought that was a good idea. Yeah, you can't I mean I was in college I couldn't It was. Right? Yes, That's true. The guys who can somehow? yeah the guys who nut Just yeah, you're right that it's possible but I couldn't do it.
[38:41] Keith: This person wonders why do penises smell like microwaved flower tortillas. Every guy I've been with has a dick that smells like a warm flower tortilla. All very clean guys I'm not even kidding when I say that I get horny every time I microwave a burrito because of the smell is it just the normal bacteria on there. Like with vagina so this is I think the number 4 post on the sex subreddit this year so I wanted to did we maybe it was early in the year this was from eleven months ago so if we did it was whatever 50 episodes ago.
[39:04] Mike: I Think we talked about this one before I think it's possible. Yeah I think I think my thought was that it was plausible because of like yeast type stuff so it's like not implausible to me. Like I mean Ah, in fact I feel like there's something about bread smells and vaginas and stuff like that. Yeah I Yes well because it's just yeast, you're just smelling yeast which is a it's you're fermenting something. Yeah.
[39:30] Keith: And genitalia.
[39:37] Keith: Right? Yeah, yeah, that all sounds.
[39:41] Mike: Yeah, um, so he's probably it's probably like a it's a cleanliness issue or he has like a yeast overgrow I don't know what what is the top comment say.
[39:51] Keith: Ah, maybe I should start microwaving flower tortillas and see if that puts my fiancee in the mood. Um, first presumably.
[39:58] Mike: The his female fiancee or her man. Okay, yeah, that's not how you get women in the mood as far as I know.
[40:10] Keith: All right, let's move on. Um, yeah, okay, but I've been noodling on this like vocabulary thing for a while and I want to I want to litigate it with you all right. This person says squirted in his face I've squirted a little before but nothing worth writing home about last night. My boyfriend was going down on me. He'd been edging me for about 30 minutes then he had 2 fingers rubbing my g spot a hand pushing down on my pelvis and licking me out licking me out out of nowhere I came so hard I basically drowned him.
[40:26] Mike: Now.
[40:41] Mike: Um, so.
[40:43] Keith: He looked like he'd just gotten out of the shower I'm absolutely mortified he claimed he quite liked it but ran off to the bathroom to wash his face quickly I'm so embarrassed what I want to know is is this a normal reaction to being squirted in the face could it be because he was shocked. Ah yeah I think and.
[40:57] Mike: Sounds right.
[41:00] Keith: I Think a normal reaction to being pissed on is to go clean off that I don't think she needs to worry about his abnormal reaction. The thing I wanted to discuss here is she says out of nowhere I came so hard I basically drowned him Ok what does a woman mean.
[41:19] Mike: Um, yeah.
[41:20] Keith: When she says she's coming.
[41:26] Mike: Ah I mean I think it varies because women have more variability about their understanding of what that word means for a woman I mean everybody everybody women included knows what it means for a man right? like it's semen comes out of their penis but like.
[41:36] Keith: It means that yeah you cannot come without an orgasm I mean there's pre come but nobody declares you're coming when like a little bit of precom is seating out.
[41:44] Mike: Yeah I mean if you get if you get into like the subreddits and the forums online about um Tantric Sex. You'll get to these like frankly kind of gross guys that sit around with things stuck up their butts for hours on end and they like do meditation exercise and they'll tell you. Like their Yogi taught them how to have an orgasm without ejaculating and so there's a thing and and and I think this is part of what's going on in porns when guys like orgasm multiple times is like I think that there are men who sit around. You know you know this is true that there are men who sit around working on this like getting really good at it.
[42:07] Keith: Whom.
[42:18] Keith: Yeah.
[42:20] Mike: And I'm sure there is some amount of like I read the other day that there are 2 sets of muscles that control your scrotum and one set is technically under voluntary control and so because of that there are men who can make their scrotum like their testicles go up and down. Okay.
[42:36] Keith: Ha.
[42:38] Mike: Like So it's like who would do that but okay, fine. So these's these like nerds out there that that learn all this stuff. Um, yeah, other than that, right? other than that yes ejaculation and orgasm are coincident for men which is yeah.
[42:43] Keith: Right? Can we set aside the like ninety nine Point Ninth percentile weirdo
[42:55] Keith: Okay, but I think women might describe might use the word coming for the following actions 1 squirting to a secretion of some other fluid maybe lubrication. Maybe.
[42:56] Mike: That's what you're saying.
[43:03] Mike: Are.
[43:13] Keith: Something else like um like whatever that white stuff is and then yeah I don't know sometimes it gets like I think it's whatever the lubrication is or that some other kind of.
[43:15] Mike: Um, yeah, they mean orgasm that white stuff. Wait wait wait. What's the white stuff.
[43:26] Mike: Okay, you're I Guess you're talking about discharge. Yeah so I mean that could be yeah.
[43:31] Keith: I Guess it's discharged. Yeah, but I think I think I think whatever the lubrication that women secrete is if if you you know like egg whites start clear. But if you whip them they sort of become like creamy and white. Maybe the lubrication The women secrete is like that.
[43:44] Mike: Yes.
[43:51] Mike: Um, I mean I think there there are multiple substances involved but sure Yes, there's there's something like that that goes on and in particularly gross porns. It actually does get whipped up into sort of a frothy substance I Really really don't like it when that happens in porns. Not a fan.
[43:54] Keith: Um, yeah.
[44:05] Keith: I Don't love it either? Um, sometimes runners will get something like that in their armpits have you noticed this like if you go to a track where there's a lot of runners.
[44:16] Mike: That's ah, gonna be I'm going to guess that if that happens it's either soap because they showered and like they didn't wash the soap out completely or deodorant I'm a nuch here. Okay yes.
[44:24] Keith: Um I think it is deodorant but whatever it is it. It's kind of grosses me out anyway or they when they say they're coming. They might mean they're orgasming. So.
[44:37] Mike: Um, I think that colloquially it's that yeah I understand that that that the linguistic concern you have here is that because for men orgasm and ejaculation are coincident and also because we use the word come for semen.
[44:53] Keith: Um, yeah.
[44:53] Mike: When a guy says I'm coming like what your mind thinks of is semen coming out of his penis spurting out of his penis and so therefore when a woman says I'm coming it suggests something squirting out of something right? It's not it so it feels like a woman should say something different when she's orgasming because it's not it like.
[45:10] Keith: Um, yeah.
[45:12] Mike: The the connotation and and connection with come and then is tricky and also it's made worse by even trained medical professionals saying oh female ejaculate females come the substance which is just not true I mean they're just it's just false its like okay and I yeah.
[45:20] Keith: Right? right? right? Do you know the words in French for these things like it is this like a deficiency in the English language like where other languages have a richer vocabulary around it.
[45:39] Mike: Ah, you I Certainly don't I Certainly don't know I know I know to ah to the oh God The verb there's a few verbs you could use but the thing is it's all going to be slang. So I don't I I don't want to I don't want someone to come make fun of me I know there was.
[45:39] Keith: You claim to be so hyperfluid. So I yeah don't know if you've.
[45:49] Keith: Yeah, yeah.
[45:55] Mike: 1 of the things that happens when you're learning a foreign language and this happens a lot like my french tutor is female. She's in her early 30 s and it's so often happens that they're words it's something you don't notice in your everyday life in english but there are so many words that have a sexual connotation or a way to use them sexually. That it's like I think I make her blush every every single session because we'll talk about something and I say something and it's like oh so like yeah, there's a word for squirt that can just be squirting but also it can be used for the guy's nut and the other thing is and I don't want to admit this to her. 1 of the reasons I know so many of these words is because my browser isn't french so when I go to pornhub the titles are translated so I know a bunch of these words but I don't want to admit to her that I know them because she's going to say well how did you know that and then I have to be like well to be honest I jerk off a lot you know.
[46:34] Keith: Right? Yeah, right? yeah.
[46:47] Mike: So I was beating off to this porn. Yeah and I've seen and I've I've seen a fair number of French porns where the woman is saying shit like fuck me and stuff like that. But I don't I I think that they're okay I in general I think that this linguistic Linguistic challenge exists in other languages as well. That like.
[46:48] Keith: I Have several sessions a day where I ah am getting heavy exposure to this vocabulary.
[46:58] Keith: Um, yeah.
[47:04] Keith: Okay.
[47:06] Mike: Orgasm and ejaculate are connected and so um, yeah, although in French there's ah the word Orgasm doesn't really mean like come like come here. You don't say I'm coming like you know in English it has this other meaning. It's not that. Yeah.
[47:18] Keith: Yeah, well yeah, it's weird I mean we have a different spelling. So what is that a homonym homopphone.
[47:26] Mike: Yeah, in French the word means more like rejoice or something like that. So it's it's kind of funny I think it might even have a religious meaning so you can come or you can like rejoice in God So like it's even weirder. It's like you're in you're in church and it's like I don't.
[47:34] Keith: Nice makes sense.
[47:45] Mike: Either. The priest is really happy or he just nutted in his pants. Not sure which yeah.
[47:48] Keith: Um, right? Um, okay I want to I want to do a little exercise here. So when a woman who is squirting. Um.
[48:04] Keith: Claims She is coming when she's squirting what percentage of the time. Do you think she? she's confused about vocabulary and she's just calling squirting coming So She's not orgasming at all and she knows she's not orgasming what percentage of the time are they orgasming coincident with. Thewrting and what percentage of time. Do They think they're orgasming coincident with thecorting.
[48:30] Mike: Ah, in this has this has to be a situation where the woman announces.
[48:34] Keith: I Guess I mean maybe we could maybe we can take that out of it I think yeah I think squirting is sort of a weird incontinence thing I think a lot of women are so did I tell you that ah I met. Ah.
[48:36] Mike: Like here here's the deal If a.
[48:44] Mike: Um, of course you think? yeah.
[48:51] Keith: I was dating a nurse who was are yeah strongly arguing that squirting is not um, is is not urine. Yeah squirt is not urine. Yeah.
[48:59] Mike: Um, urine. That's really tiresome I mean of course there is good. There could be some element. That's not urine. But if a if a woman produces say a liter of squirt. It's almost all but from this urine because where the fuck else did it come from in her body. By the way I watched a porn on this same topic I watched a porn so I was searching I was searching for porns because I thought this might be ah erotic I was an erotic frame of mine and I was looking for women giving a female anatomy lesson on themselves.
[49:29] Keith: Ah.
[49:34] Keith: Oh yeah, yeah.
[49:34] Mike: Which actually I thought would be kind of like an instructive or pedagogical thing to have on pornnob and I was like it could be kind of cool to like this hot chick like going in here's where I do this and here's that ok and there was a good. There were some good ones I think there should be more of those by the way like if ah I think that more of this should be produced because I think it's something men would consume and it's a good way to teach men. You know like.
[49:52] Keith: Yeah, right right.
[49:54] Mike: Like look you can beat off and learn where my clid is um okay in this one it was good. It would like had a lot of stuff. They were very clear about like the inner labia outer labia like Vera you could see everything was really nice then they said oh and here are the skins glands.
[50:09] Keith: Right? That's where the squirt that's where the that's where the squirt ostensibly comes from right.
[50:11] Mike: SKENE which might be pronounced skein right? and it said that it said oh this is where a woman when she when when during female ejaculation and I thought this is not scientific. This is pseudoscience those glands produce something probably for lubrication.
[50:18] Keith: Now.
[50:29] Keith: Um, are there are there so are are there Some women that squirt from their skenes clans that aren't squirting from their bladder.
[50:31] Mike: Etc. They're not squirting.
[50:38] Mike: Now I mean unless the amount of unless unless what you call squirt is like some tiny amount of fluid There just isn't anything in there. There isn't an apparatus in there to produce what I think people mean like a macroscopic right? like.
[50:48] Keith: The volume.
[50:53] Mike: Yes, could something happen. Yes, of course, but it would be a minor. It would be something you wouldn't really call squirting. Okay, um, yeah.
[50:56] Keith: And is the Skenes Gland connected to any kind of pleasure or is it just another kind of incontinence except this time it's instead of blatder incontinence. It skenes plant Incomp Incontinence Skenes Skenes glands.
[51:07] Mike: I don't know the answer. First of all, there're they're 2 of them because they're on either side of the entrance to the vagina glands. Yeah um, and secondly ah I don't know the end that's like you're you're you're at a level of detail like you're basically asking is there is it pleasurable if these things output something and I I don't think that.
[51:23] Keith: That is what I'm asking. Okay.
[51:25] Mike: A woman can really know if yeah I don't think a woman can really know if they're outputting something and when there's a macroscopic amount of squirt. It's definitely coming from her urethra. So.
[51:32] Keith: Um, what is what produces the lubrication are those is that glandular like like we have um we have um so cell cells Saliva Glands Salivary glands.
[51:42] Mike: Salivary glance. Yeah so my my understanding of this and this is good because I feel like your brother in law I Know it's almost the holidays. Actually when this goes live. It'll be after the holidays which will save me potentially because then you're it'll it'll save me exactly.
[51:47] Keith: I know. Oh he won't have heard this to to draw to Mark you? yeah.
[51:58] Mike: Okay I don't know what his name is but Mr. x the brother in law. Um, here's my understanding of this first of all, you know you know that the that basically effectively all the lubrication comes from not the surface of the labia comes from inside the vagina and you know that.
[52:13] Keith: Yeah, yeah.
[52:14] Mike: Just from like experience in life like the outer part of the vaginas or the volulva is often kind of dry and then you kind of pull the lubrication out which I wonder it so it could be plausibly. You could but plausibly argue. That's why the male I know the rational given for why the head of a cock is the way it is is to.
[52:19] Keith: Yep, yes.
[52:27] Keith: Oh then.
[52:31] Mike: Plunge out another man's semen but maybe it's not maybe it's just to pull the lubrication out to make sex more comfortable. Um I don't know it's possible. Um, anyway, my understanding is that it's basically it's it's um, it's plasma. It's blood plasma right? So it's basically the part of blood that is not.
[52:34] Keith: That seems like a good theory in any case.
[52:50] Mike: Red blood cells right? That's what female lubrication is's sort of slick and ah and it's basically I guess you could describe it as something like sweating that's happening there like there's basically spaces in interest intracellular intercellular spaces that are open so that this stuff can come out. That's that's what's going on.
[53:05] Keith: But but there are there are sweat glands as well. That produce a sweat like what produces Snot There's no snot glands are there? Yeah sorry I'm trying to come up with with with something.
[53:12] Mike: Oh my God I am not a doctor I mean there's no s not Gland right? So right? So so that's right.
[53:21] Keith: We're like the body secreting a fluid without a gland which I think is what's going on with lubrication.
[53:27] Mike: Because your body can your but so so the thing with sweat is it's coming out of individual pores right? and there are sweat glands in there this the the lubrication my understanding is just fluid ah like blood plasma or in.
[53:32] Keith: Yes.
[53:42] Mike: <unk>llular fluid that's able to come out because of some change in the vagina that basically allows some of the fluid that's in your body to sort of leak out and I don't think their individual glands. It's coming out through. It's just sort of generally becomes more porous and an analogy to this would be how you're intestine.
[53:55] Keith: Let's say.
[54:01] Mike: Yeah I mean it's ridiculous because I'm not a doctor so but but my understanding is the way your small intestine works is kind of the same in Reverse. There's no like Gland that pulls nutrients. You know there's no specific gland to pull the vitamin C from your food in well the way it works is simply that you're in small intestine is porous. It's just porous. And so there are things that are able to cross through it into your bloodstream. It's porous in yeah, it's surrounded by blood vessels which then allow it's It's able to enter in there. Ah obviously it's not just porous such that like stuff is going into your like.
[54:21] Keith: I say.
[54:35] Mike: You know, just the the spaces in between your organs. It's not that it's it's porous in the way I'm describing so there's there must be some point place where it's not particularly porous. There's 1 other thing I wanted to say about this story because this woman who squirted she said that. So first of all if you if a woman squirts and it's not a surprise then that means she just peed.
[54:36] Keith: Right? right? right? right.
[54:51] Keith: Oh.
[54:54] Mike: So in Porn cam shows all that stuff where it's not a surprise at the woman squirts. She's just peeing. Okay I just I feel strongly about this the woman she doesn't a woman who's really has incontinence or squirting that's happening. She's not going to know whether it's going to happen until it happens right? It's It's not going to happen every time. It's not going to be reliable. It's going to relate to some.
[55:12] Keith: Is that true. Do do inconsonate can incontinent people not I Guess that's what incontinence is is. It's involuntary right? ah.
[55:14] Mike: I'm confident of this.
[55:21] Mike: Yeah, incondence is like Narcolepsy It's always a surprise just sneaks up on you. Um, so I don't yeah I don't think I mean look I want there could be a woman that every single time she orgasms. She's incontinent. Okay, fine. Ah I just don't. Okay, maybe but in general I think you can just assume that if it's not a surprise. It's because she's peeing on purpose and in all porns you've ever seen or cam shows. It's always just the woman peeing and oftentimes you can see her butthole ah bearing down which is the opposite of a Cagle and you can tell that she's bearing down to make herself pee.
[55:48] Keith: Yeah.
[55:56] Mike: Um, the other thing I want to say is that the guy she was like oh the guy rushed off to to wash himself which makes perfect sense but in the moment when she was squirting he fucking Loved it. He did not dislike it and the reason why is because the notion of a woman losing like.
[56:03] Keith: Yeah. I know.
[56:11] Mike: Yeah, one of the male, the core male fantasies is you have these women who are super controlled. They wear their dainty dress they put on makeup they're controlling their environment. They're sort of control freaks and like ah kind of it's sort of true women I think are objectively more kind of that way more uptight call it in normal life. Well he's made her lose control.
[56:17] Keith: Um, right right.
[56:29] Mike: And super exciting and so he fucking loved it. The fact that she pissed all over the way and frankly I don't think a guy would care that it's piss like I could see a guy getting excited about a woman's shitting wall Orgasm He's like whatever if you vomit during Orgasm he's like yeah I did that to you like I don't guys don't give a shit you know.
[56:30] Keith: Um, right.
[56:45] Keith: Ah, right? Yeah I think the regret would seep in pretty quickly after but yeah, like.
[56:47] Mike: Who cares? why it came out. He's like yeah you lost physical control your body. It's like great.
[56:54] Mike: Yeah, but still, he'd be like I did that to you. You're so over the moon for me that you fucking shat yourself you were so excited like that's what I mean I get it like guys want that. But in the instant it happened you wouldn't be like whoa I did that.
[57:04] Keith: Um I think it would trigger I I think it would trigger my discuss Disgust reflex Oh sure. No yeah, no in concept abstracted. Yes, it's great.
[57:14] Mike: Yeah, see yeah like what a man like the ideal thing for a man would be something like you know like when a you've never seen this but I have because I'm a sick person. Um, what happens to a person when they're put in an electric chair and like you flip the switch like their body goes rigid.
[57:27] Keith: Ah.
[57:33] Keith: Ah, now yeah.
[57:34] Mike: Some crazy shit. That's what a guy wants the woman he wants her body to totally lose control when he makes her come. It's a fantasy and but and frankly women like that and of men too. That's why ah the number 1 thing that women want in porn is male moaning. Yeah.
[57:41] Keith: It's a great analogy bike.
[57:52] Mike: They want the man to lose control and to be sort of they want him to be expressive. Oh yeah, they want they want him to be like oh look what you did to me. It's the same. It's just the inverted like it's It's more like look what you made me do or something you maybe squirt this nut everywhere. It's all over the place.
[57:52] Keith: Yeah, like involuntary expression of pleasure.
[58:02] Keith: right now okay all right I'm going to stop you that'll do it for this episode of your mileage make very you could send us feedback or questions to why mmvpod at gmaildot com ah we pay $10 for feedback. So just give us your Paypal or venmo or whatever.
[58:11] Mike: Made me make a mess in your pussy.
[58:20] Mike: Are.
[58:28] Keith: Ah, if it's a question. Let us know if we can use it on the show. Um, you have anything you want to add here? Yes, yes, um.
[58:32] Mike: Um, Keith Keith can you hear me, you made me make a mess in this podcast.
[58:44] Keith: But thanks for your time and we will catch you next week on your mileage may vary. Oh my god.

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