Your Mileage May Vary: Dinner's Ready! Clit Sizes, Cam Roulette, Genital Perfumes, Pushy Head

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[00:00] Keith: Hello and welcome to your mileage may vary. We talk about sex and relationships with frankness that is often controversial but mostly in good faith I have collated a bountiful list of sexy topics to cover today including a girlfriend with an extreme kink what to do. When a man unwantedly forces your head down on his dick a couple who finds a new way to express their exhibitionism and more I am Keith my co-host is Mike hello Mike um, we talked about you invented a a new term in our last episode the the three seven s
[00:18] Mike: Are.
[00:27] Mike: Um, hey Keith.
[00:37] Keith: Do you want to describe what that meant to you.
[00:39] Mike: Yeah, that's ah, that's when you have instead of well the three sixes are a guy who's six feet tall makes 6 figures and has a six inch penis so then the 3 sevens would just be going up to the next level which of course means it's just like a couple of basketball players. Realistically.
[00:51] Keith: Right? Be seven feet tall I feel like what's someone seven feet tall like what are the odds that they have a seven inch or smaller penis right? like they would.
[00:53] Mike: Because you'd have to make more than $1000000 a year have a gigantic penis and be seven feet tall that's right
[01:08] Keith: But be just be disproportionate.
[01:09] Mike: Are I mean you know this from falling basketball are their hands and feet bigger than okay so I would think so and I mean you I don't even think there's a selection bias because I remember distinctly think you and I both knew a guy.
[01:14] Keith: Um, yes, yeah, so you would think everything scales right.
[01:28] Mike: Once who was six foot 10 I think and I remember looking up because I was curious. What are the odds if somebody six foot ten six foot eleven seven feet tall that they play in the Nba and my recollection is that if you're seven feet tall it's like 1 in 7 so and for this guy.
[01:29] Keith: Yes.
[01:41] Keith: Yeah I I don't remember what the number is I think it's 1 in 7 if you're born in the United States or something. But yeah.
[01:48] Mike: Okay, and for this guy I think it was like 1 in you know one hundred one in a thousand it was but it was it was it was a reasonable odds right? It was I mean for a normal height person. It would be 0 But anyway I don't remember if this guy had extra large hands and we certainly never asked what his penis size was we probably should have.
[02:03] Keith: Who should have he would have he might have engaged in that conversation with us did wasn't his daughter sort of athletic. Ok I never met her but I'm just remembering that she was athletic so that implies that he might have been athletic to ok Anyway, the reason why I brought up the the triple Sevens is.
[02:06] Mike: Yeah.
[02:10] Mike: Um, and tall. Yes.
[02:23] Keith: Okay, let's say a woman had a number of points to allocate to penis size a number of figures of wealth and and height how do you think they would distribute it if it was capped at 18
[02:38] Mike: Oh that's a good question. Well I mean ah well so the the issue is what is 6.5 or 7 what does 6 point five mean if it's wealth right? That's going to be the key question there. So if.
[02:49] Keith: Yeah, is it log rhythmic or is it. Yeah yeah.
[02:57] Mike: So I mean generally I think she would ah gosh it would be that's actually an interesting challenge. It's honestly interesting because all 3 are kind of important. My guess is she would take she'd shave one point off penis size and distribute it between she'd want the six I'm I'm going to go with 7 on the money 6 on the height and 5 on the penis size.
[03:02] Keith: Um, I know.
[03:08] Keith: Um, yeah.
[03:13] Keith: Yeah, that.
[03:16] Mike: What I think she'd do she might go for 8 and 4 on the penis size. Actually she might take 8 on the wealth.
[03:18] Keith: That that would be the correct thing to do actually the correct thing to do would be 0 and twelve on the on the and go yeah a billionaire wealth.
[03:27] Mike: So no penis but just a ton of money. Yeah, sure right? I mean do you think that's do you think that's worth it. That's a what it's a trade off that women work or to have only out to have to.
[03:37] Keith: Trillionaire right? A trillion dollars to never have sex.
[03:45] Mike: Sort of have sex with a micro penis man.
[03:46] Keith: Well, it would be 0 in this case so he would have to just go down on you or or penetrate you digitally.
[03:54] Mike: Right? Yeah, that's it's an interesting question I don't I don't know I I think that I think at that point Ah, it's like a counterfactual you're at the point now where it's like a woman doesn't want somebody that's deformed.
[04:07] Keith: Would you.
[04:09] Mike: But honestly and and also there's a there's decreasing marginal value of wealth right? I mean going from 1000000000 to 10000000000 to one hundred billion is not really much of a difference. So I mean getting a couple inches of penis size and giving up some billions probably is worth it right.
[04:21] Keith: You would not take a trillion dollars to never have sex again in your life I think I wouldn't either couldn't you like couldn't you like hypothetically like fix world poverty.
[04:28] Mike: No I wouldn't because I don't think I don't think I would get that much marginal value out of a trillion dollars versus what I have now. Um I'm I have my mike privilege.
[04:41] Keith: With now the trillion's not enough 10000000000000 you might well right? Yeah, we'd have to like somehow.
[04:41] Mike: You couldn't because you know you couldn't because money is sort of a theoretical construct right? So if so you would just have inflation then you be in the weimar republic.
[04:55] Keith: Stop inflation and you get 10000000000000 so you get like half the words.
[04:56] Mike: Slash you you'd be in why Marvel hook Republic Slash Biden's America
[05:03] Keith: Um, right all right? I'm not going there. Um, there was this post on the ah sure Lifestyle Forum Subreddit This guy was talking about this girl he was dating.
[05:07] Mike: And.
[05:18] Keith: And he said that her vagina was was was too big and he couldn't feel anything when he put his penis in and then there was this you know shaming him about how like he just has a small penis and you know whatever it is and then it it prompted this then this the number one post on the um sugar lifestyle form.
[05:25] Mike: Um, who.
[05:38] Keith: Subred ah of the week and they say okay sex Ed Thanks to a recent post. It has become clear that some people in this group are unaware about how vaginal openings actually work your penis cannot permanently stretch out a pussy a large toy cannot permanently stretch out a pussy vaginal paintings are the size they are they loosen up when Aroused. Widen for babies to come out unless there's a tear.. There's no permanent change. They're like rubber bands returning to the original shape and size now I actually think Rubber bands are a terrible analogy rubber bands and Springs the more you use them the less. They return to the original shape and size. But.
[06:13] Mike: That's certainly true for a spring for rubber band it would break right? I'm not sure but I'm not sure it does a rubber band actually become loose. Yeah I Guess that's true, something happens right.
[06:17] Keith: Eventually yeah.
[06:22] Keith: Um I don't know they get sort of flaky. They get dried out somehow. Yeah um, yeah, well anyway, all right late? Yeah brutal ladies Please ignore the part in this article that suggests doing.
[06:29] Mike: Might be a good analogy for a woman.
[06:39] Keith: Typical cgels cables were created by a man and average cagables are not recommended by pelvic floor therapists I saw a pelvic floor therapist a few years ago and she was amazing. My therapist had me do more of an elevator type cagel. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
[06:56] Mike: Um, elevator type kegel. What's an out did well I want to know what an elevator type kegel is does she say anything. Okay, that's confusing to me because I.
[06:56] Keith: Now to get the kids off to school and get myself to work now. Why is she doing cgels if it's not possible to change anything in your vagina I don't fucking know man I don't know I think it's funny that she's gatekeeping cgel type.
[07:15] Mike: Ah, yeah I don't I mean I think that that's a relatively standard ah therapy for incontinence and and if you're sort of improving the musculature in that area. Maybe it's a placebo. Maybe it doesn't do anything I I will admit to never having I just assumed.
[07:28] Keith: Um, ah.
[07:33] Mike: That it made sense that it would that it could work. So maybe it doesn't work. That's it's plausible to me that it does nothing.
[07:35] Keith: Um, what? what is what is it? What is the supposed mechanism. It's it's not making you tighter. It's it's tightening something else up or firming something else up.
[07:45] Mike: Yeah, well, they're muscles I mean they muscle it's this. It's the female and now analog to the muscles the that you use when you stop your pee flowing right? So it's the muscles kind of around the vaginal opening around the anus and so you can in Theory you could strengthen them right.
[07:58] Keith: Okay, but and this but does this correlate to perceived tightness by someone penetrating you.
[08:03] Mike: Just like muscle training.
[08:08] Mike: I mean it it could enable them to voluntarily tighten them in such a way that it creates perceived tightness sure I mean everybody's aware of the ah not maybe not everybody but like there's like 3 really famous things in Tijuana there's the donkey show and then there's like.
[08:15] Keith: I don't.
[08:27] Mike: Okay, well 2 of them are the donkey show in the woman and then the other one is the woman who shoots ping-pong balls out of her vagina presumably that is the a consequence of having relatively skilled control over those muscles. Yes, exactly and also would be.
[08:31] Keith: Right.
[08:38] Keith: Cagels Oh sorry, not cagels, but the muscles that cagels hypothetically address.
[08:45] Mike: Ah, the ability to sort of increase the amount of pressure in the abdomen like for example I was having a very sad day the other day and looked up speculum porn. Um, yeah, why right? why? and it turns out that there is oh I'll tell you why I was listening to the.
[08:56] Keith: What? Yeah yeah, yeah.
[09:05] Mike: Ah, a bit by a comedian who was it ah Nikki Glazer and ah I might have mentioned her on the podcast last week or the week before I'm not sure. But anyway so she had a bit about speculums and whether they would go up her ass or vagina and so I was like oh I wonder if there's porn of this and of course there is and.
[09:08] Keith: Okay.
[09:24] Mike: 1 of the speculum porns in the vagina I mean it's like what's the point. The porn's sort of boring right? They just open it up and then but the woman coughed and you could see like a lot of motion of the internal structures in there when she coughed and that was a little bit interesting right.
[09:35] Keith: Um, yeah, well we know that because when men get physicals. They're asked to the doctor gropes your balls and then asks you to turn your head and cough and then I think they're feeling for the muscle response there and they can tell if you have a hernia.
[09:50] Mike: Right? I thought it was a heria 2 Yeah, that makes sense. So yeah, there's there's some analog there for a woman and you can and also I mean every guy who's had sex with a woman has probably had the experience of her either laughing or coughing when you're inside her and there's some.
[09:51] Keith: Or the potential of a Hernia developing based on how those muscles respond.
[10:04] Keith: Yes, of course.
[10:09] Mike: Sensation that you get. It's not. It's not like I mean would you term it pleasurable I would just say it's like it's noticeable. It's like a notable sensation. It's not like you're not like oh a cough a lot because it'll turn me on.
[10:17] Keith: Um, yeah, yeah, what when someone's coughing or sneezing. It's just not really sexy generally and so it's it's sort of like a.
[10:26] Mike: Well fair point fair point.
[10:32] Keith: It's orthogonal to whether or not I'm turned on. Ah, yeah, there's a bunch of people in the comments saying that he must have a small penis.
[10:35] Mike: Um, yeah I agree with that. Um.
[10:47] Mike: That's a standard kind of repost right? I mean that's like that right? That's the right thing to say to sort of make fun of the guy and belittle him. Um, yeah.
[10:51] Keith: Yeah, can we litigate this briefly is it possible like are there women I think like the average vagina is even more clustered around the mean than the average penis length like I think most penises are like you know between 4 and six inch 4 or sorry 5 and seven inches
[11:10] Mike: It's like yeah, it's even tighter than I mean most are between like it's even tighter than that but go on exactly well yeah, 5 and after six and a half yeah
[11:14] Keith: Sure five and a half to seven and a half or whatever all right? and or sorry six and half whatever all right there? Yeah, they're clustered around the mean I think vagina tightness is also very maybe even more so clustered around the mean.
[11:26] Mike: Yes.
[11:32] Mike: It makes sense to me because what I mean it unless you have like ah something in there dilating the vagina it basically closes on itself right? And so when you talk about tightness. It almost doesn't mean anything right? I mean it's It's simply.
[11:45] Keith: Well no people have different sized mouth cavities and armpit cavities and stuff you can imagine the like opening or or tautness there varying.
[11:48] Mike: The internal structure of the woman's body sure. But.
[11:59] Mike: Yeah, but when in your mouth. There's a space. There's actually a space in your mouth all the time right? I mean you have your tongue in there if you close your mouth Even if you Okay, if you fill it with food but the point is there's There's not everything in your mouth if your mouth is closed is you can't make it so your mouth is completely filled with. But your body parts right? There's and there's space in there that could have food water or air right? A Vagina is not like that a vagina is not like that when it closes up, There's actually no space right? It's a potential space right? I mean it. It. It actually collapses in on itself when when when there's nothing in there.
[12:21] Keith: Okay, where are you going with this.
[12:36] Keith: Is that is that true that I don't know. Okay, okay, so then it's so then we're discussing the um, the stretchability of the tissue then you can imagine different women having.
[12:36] Mike: It's It's simply a in general. Yeah I mean you would unless you like I mean yeah, of course you could put air in there. You could.
[12:53] Keith: Different tissue stretchability.
[12:56] Mike: Yes, or and also maybe different muscular control and also um, sort of how big the potential space is but even that you know it's very very big in all women because it can fit a baby. Right? So It's so the potential space there is quite large like it's Stretch. It's stretchy enough. So and so this is what it sort of doesn't mean anything.
[13:12] Keith: Yeah, ok the reason I've already conceded the point that I think women are even more clustered around the mean than men are but is it is it possible. There's you know? ah the rare woman out there who's.
[13:19] Mike: Right.
[13:29] Keith: Vagina is ultra tight or ultra loose.
[13:29] Mike: I think so because I think what people really mean when they're talking about that is the first say inch of the vagina right? and so then that could be impacted by various physiological factors right? because they're there. You know there.
[13:39] Keith: Um.
[13:46] Mike: Yeah I mean there simply is I mean for starters you have the question of whether she's had a baby or not right would would impact how large of a thing is ever passed through there and then you could imagine you. You have an opening in the opening as a size.
[13:54] Keith: Yeah, but yeah, but even the disstension caused by having a baby I think I mean some women some women as women's is Vaginas actually tear when they.
[14:11] Mike: Um, that's true.
[14:12] Keith: Have a baby but that heals I think and things return roughly to normal. Yes, yeah, well people can get surgery to address that Ah, where was I going with this. Oh.
[14:16] Mike: Hopefully it either heals if it doesn't heal you. You're in trouble especially if it's pointing toward the anus which it often is yes yes I'm not sure.
[14:30] Keith: I Just think it's possible that this man's experience has reported was not what was what? yeah like he may have actually thought she had you know a particularly loose vagina I suspect. I Suspect the thing that most men identify as a loose vagina is just a woman that's very wet. Um, because that that can affect the perception there but I just thought the immediate shaming of his penis was a little bit.
[14:55] Mike: Um, yes, yes I think that's right.
[15:03] Mike: There's so there was a related when you said that ah that was from from which form sugar lifestyle forum I think so on on Nfs Nsf W 4 one 1 which of course is the subreddit for finding porn somebody requested. It's actually the top request right now.
[15:07] Keith: Yeah, yeah.
[15:19] Mike: Put up 7 hours ago it says who has the tightest body you've ever seen. They mean in porn. Um, and there there's some examples given I'm not going to go through the list. But what does that mean to you a tight body. What do you think that means it's on the same axis right.
[15:24] Keith: Um, yeah.
[15:34] Keith: Yeah I would guess very toned but not, you don't want it to be too low because you lose some femininity at that point.
[15:43] Mike: Um, so low body fat. Okay.
[15:49] Mike: Okay, well the top. Okay, so there's somebody named angelical ebb Angelica Ebbie who's one of the top choices. Okay, so she yes she's blonde and very thin. So maybe that's what they mean I have heard the name. Yeah.
[16:00] Keith: Do you know who Mia Malcova is she was a big porn star like five years ago she's a gymnast so in a lot of her porn. She's like doing the splits and stuff.
[16:09] Mike: Okay, and so she is it basically means muscular sort of strong athletic looking something like that is that what tight tight means it's something you hear a lot. You know oh she has a tight body but it's not well defined in my opinion.
[16:22] Keith: Yeah I think tight is a euphemism for she has a hot body and then it's sort of open to interpretation by the you know by the listener.
[16:33] Mike: It makes sense. Okay, anyway, yeah, these people have a various It's always interesting to me when people it's it's sort of an analog a bit. Although I think it's more common than that to the people who could post comments on porn or as we saw comments on male masturbator toy toys on Amazon. Um, people who know the names of the porn stars I always think it's kind of interesting I think it's more common to know the names of the porn stars than to post comments. Actually I think it's somewhat common I'm guessing like 20 plus maybe what? what would you guess? Actually what percentage of men. Do you think no say 5 or 10.
[16:53] Keith: Um.
[17:03] Keith: Um, yeah.
[17:11] Mike: Porn stars names. Yeah kind of.
[17:11] Keith: It's a tricky test I don't think I could I don't think I could recite 10 porn stars names. But if you showed me 20 names I bet I could identify the 10 that are porn stars.
[17:20] Mike: I wonder what percentage of men I bet it's more than 50% of men can do that? yeah.
[17:27] Keith: You just develop a parasocial relationship with a few of them. Um, will you really like amateur stuff generally.
[17:35] Mike: Um, yeah I don't for me, they're much more anonymous than that I don't yeah but even when it's even when it's the same same person again and again I think often I don't notice that it's the same person I don't I don't develop a relationship with them like that like it's more somehow I. Yeah I don't I don't think I don't say or think to myself. Oh I like this person That's a little bit unusual. Not really I I think I've heard the name. Okay.
[17:56] Keith: Do you know who Emily Willis is huh. She's a Burnett. She's very skinny. Um, she's been around for a while you know she always wins those avian awards. Anyway, she recently had an overdose I believe and.
[18:14] Keith: Hospitalized for it I didn't follow up. She might have me just make sure she hasn't died.
[18:16] Mike: Wow yeah, she's in a she was hospitalizing a coma as the family prepared for the worst that was ah that's actually tomorrow's news it well, it's because it's from the U K and we're in California.
[18:27] Keith: Oh yeah, look at this? Yeah, she's still in critical condition following her hospitalization last month anyway yeah she just came to mind because she'd been in the news lately. But I knew she was when I saw this story I I was like oh yeah.
[18:44] Mike: Doesn't say what drug what drug she overdosed on.
[18:47] Keith: Well yeah, it's not going to be good. Yeah, but yeah, have some fond memories there that I now feel a little guilty about um, all right? Let's do this? Well ok, um, let's do this.
[18:51] Mike: Let's not speculate. Yeah.
[18:57] Mike: Does it matter you okay go on. Yeah, yeah.
[19:04] Keith: Kinks thing now dear listeners You should brace yourself here. This is yeah um here we go Yeah Girlfriend has really extreme kinks and I am unable to get a rouse after hearing them. My girlfriend has yeah.
[19:10] Mike: Really? Okay I'm excited.
[19:19] Mike: After hearing them. Ah.
[19:21] Keith: But Girlfriend is really extreme kinks and she shared them with me. She asked whether I am down for hearing it and I said yes she did insist I was it was entirely optional and not required I wasn't it's It's really just one.
[19:27] Mike: Wait wait wait wait I want to I want to guess can I Guess what the kinks are okay, how many are there? Okay is it shitting on. Is it having him shit on her.
[19:46] Keith: Ah, you you are? ah you know you when you play hot and cold. You are you are extremely hot but you're not there. Yeah here we go? Yeah, all right? all right I wasn't prepared for what she was going to say though.
[19:46] Mike: Am I close? Yeah yeah, she shits on him. Okay, let's hear it I'm I'm close. Okay, yeah.
[19:59] Keith: She said that she has a huge scat fetish. She talked about how she wants me to quote eat her shit and things like that I was just shocked as she continued by saying that she wants me to accompany her to the toilet or even literally serve it to me on a plate saying dinner's ready. She said she also wants to eat things. She cannot digest.
[20:00] Mike: No God Oh my god.
[20:18] Keith: For going to the bathroom so that it won't be fully feces and stuff she ate would be present as well. I immediately said yeah I'm never doing that sorry she just shrugged and said she thought so and that that's no problem. The problem is that now I'm unable to get hard.
[20:24] Mike: I.
[20:35] Keith: Have tried having normal sex but I just can't get aroused when I'm near her no matter what I do she accused me of kink shaming and said I said it was entirely entirely optional and you agreed to listen to it. We were having sex as we tried to do earlier and you aren't getting aroused and that I'm kink shaming her etc now she's really upset that I am unable to get aroused by her now.
[20:52] Mike: I mean King shaming could be okay in certain contexts I mean that this is a pretty extreme.
[20:52] Keith: No idea what to do.
[20:57] Keith: Yeah, if if somebody comes to you and says you know I just fantasize about fucking young boys. It's like okay well you maybe she feels some shame for that.
[21:08] Mike: Right? So ok so just to be clear here. She wants. Ah sorry, who's who is who is saying dinners ready or her or the okay so she so her kink is for him to eat her poop that doesn't that.
[21:15] Keith: She wants to present her poop to him. M.
[21:26] Mike: Is that is the word kink right? there that feels like it's like sadism and masochism. It's like she's doing it to him like that's not I mean that's that okay, fine. That's a kink but it's not it's it seems a little unfair right? she should. She should be the 1 kind of subjecting herself to the.
[21:30] Keith: Right.
[21:44] Mike: Um, unusual experience in my opinion for a kink but okay.
[21:44] Keith: Some clever ah person in the comments said and so somebody pointed out like I don't get why why? the hell she went so far into descriptions before checking how you felt about it. What happened to I'm really into scat I have a bunch of things I'd like to do if that's something you might be interested in then you'd have a chance to say? No thank you.
[21:53] Mike: Um.
[22:03] Keith: And she didn't need to put all those mental images in your head but the person responding to that said I'm guessing she got turned on while talking about that which is probably in play.
[22:13] Mike: I don't I mean the the problem I mean there's a few problems here problem 1 is that I mean first of all think about what level let's assume this isn't she's not trolling what level of kind of.
[22:25] Keith: For sure.
[22:31] Mike: Openness She had to get to to even say this to the guy. Even if you had this kink You wouldn't want to reveal it right? This would be something that you would want to ah the odds. Yeah, the odds that this would work the odds that the guy say oh that sounds great are.
[22:37] Keith: Right? right. Take to the grave.
[22:51] Mike: Really close to 0 I think it's effectively zero. So she's never going to find a guy who's going to say oh that sounds like what I want to do so so there's that um and then right I mean she's running this huge risk that the guy is then going to.
[22:56] Keith: Right.
[23:08] Mike: He's going to wonder things like well have other people done this for you like what? what? how does? what? what are the contours of this right? and he's going to wonder that too.
[23:16] Keith: I can't imagine ah I I don't know if I would do this in any sort of like I mean I mean we're we're back to the like well for a trillion dollars would you and it's like okay, well then maybe but.
[23:31] Mike: For yeah.
[23:32] Keith: Yeah, like there's just nobody. Yeah, the set of people that would tolerate this is like virtually zero So like how does she even know she has this this kink.
[23:39] Mike: And that's a great question. That's a great question. Yeah, how to how write what happened in her life this it. That's why yeah makes you think that hey this is either a fake post or trolling or something strange. No.
[23:49] Keith: A troll. Yeah, this might be her way of like breaking up with him like she just makes up something totally outrageous that like he obviously won't do and then says like oh well this is a deal breaker for me.
[23:58] Mike: Nobody would do that.
[24:06] Mike: I Just I mean I've never is that is a is that a breakup strategy that you've ever encountered in any way in your life either done to you done to a friend I mean.
[24:12] Keith: No, but I'm gonna I'm going to add this to the Rolodex I'll try it out.
[24:19] Mike: I could see it there. There probably is a Seinfeld episode that has as a plot device something like this in fact, there are right I mean there there are plot devices where they yeah they make up something. Yeah, right? you come up with something and then the person breaks up with you but generally, ah yeah, this is hard. It's hard to fathom.
[24:23] Keith: Right? that Jerry makes up some absurdities and.
[24:38] Mike: Where this comes from and kind of what the point is yeah.
[24:42] Keith: Yeah, ah, all right? So you're you're apparently not into it either all right? Let's move on what to do when a guy pushes your head down when he's coming I'm actually having the worst luck meeting non asshole guys lately I'm a thirty year old fear. Female and I hooked up with a guy today because I've been having issues with guys coming inside me without my permission. So I decided to use a condom perfectly fine sex I'm a little confused. Oh I see she wants to use a condom because normally if she doesn't use a condom. Guys come inside of her all right? Whatever all right perfectly fine sex until he asked me if he could take the condom off to come in my mouth I thought hell yeah consent for once and let him the problem was when he started coming. He forced my head down I was fucking terrified and he held me.
[25:30] Mike: Um, yeah.
[25:32] Keith: Like that as hard as he could for what felt like a minute I had such bad tunnel vision after I just put my clothes and after I just put my clothes on and had a huge panic attack Slash cry in my car I kind of used to experience this when I was younger but I didn't but it didn't feel anywhere as scary. Never even thought to bring up something like that as a boundary. So Maybe I should just bring it up and move On. He's a nice Guy. He's already done a wellness check on me but I don't know. Ah so this is mildly Interesting. There were a couple things in the comments that surprised me.
[26:05] Mike: Look at.
[26:07] Keith: Um, so somebody the first the number one comment is everyone covered the ethical side. So I'll offer a practical tip use your hand on the shaft of his cock as a limiter to how much she can thrust in your mouth that's kind of genius yeah, you use your hand as like a governor so he can't.
[26:19] Mike: Sure. Wait that you've never thought of or encountered that before.
[26:29] Keith: I've encountered somebody using their hand on my cock while they're blowing me but that can actually feel better than just a mouth alone I didn't it didn't I didn't consider that that could be used as a governor to stop me from forcing their head down.
[26:31] Mike: Um, right? yeah.
[26:44] Mike: Well I mean it could be yeah, no matter what position you're in. Also if you're thrusting up toward them or whatever debate. Yeah, it's basically like a control ah system I feel like yeah there was there was some text thing that circulated like in the late 1990 s
[26:52] Keith: Um, yeah.
[27:02] Mike: Was like you know how to give a blowjob and this was like 1 of the 7 tips or something. It's like an old old meme. Yes.
[27:06] Keith: Huh Okay, well excuse my ignorance then I I had never seen that before. Okay, and then the other comment I thought was interesting is so somebody responds to the to the hand tip by saying this is the best way to stop forced deep throating and somebody responds to that I say the best way is teeth but okay.
[27:22] Mike: Yeah.
[27:24] Keith: And then like 20 people respond and say like no absolutely do not do that because the impulse reaction is to punch and she is in the worst position possible somebody else says. Yeah, really don't bite the impulse for most land is to punch and will absolutely do some damage ah that.
[27:39] Mike: How do they know that.
[27:43] Keith: Was ah, there's like 20 responses that mentioned this like punch reaction is this a well-known thing you just you just told me that the hand governor thing is well known is.
[27:52] Mike: No, this is not a well because in order to know this you would have to have somebody. You'd have to have ah sort of experimental evidence of what happens when people's dicks get bitten or attacked and I don't think people I mean for example, ah when ah. Somebody gets hit in the crotch playing soccer. They don't immediately punch at the air or you know what? I mean people don't when when when a person's penis gets Attacked. He doesn't punch at the okay.
[28:16] Keith: Um, well I don't know that's I don't know if that's analogous but I don't know I I mean I I'm surprised that so many people seem to know this punching thing.
[28:28] Mike: What do you think you would do if somebody bit your cock.
[28:33] Keith: Ah I'm I'm trying to imagine am I having like is my arm twitching like imagining this I don't know I don't think so I don't know. Yeah.
[28:37] Mike: You'd be surprised.
[28:41] Mike: Wait Why oh is your arm twitching like you're punching. Yeah I mean I think that I would be surprised and I feel like I would instead try to pull their head off of my penis which might be a bad decision because they could then like.
[28:56] Keith: Yeah, and they like leave a skid marks teeth skid marks oh man these these last 2 topics.
[28:59] Mike: Remove the skin right? Yeah, you'd have a bloody bloody trail on your penis? Yeah, but I don't I don't know if punching punching them would be the first and anyway I'm skeptical that everybody knows that.
[29:15] Keith: Ah, well you should I mean you can look at the thread yourself to get rid of that skepticism I'm confused why everyone seems to know that although maybe everyone was just piling on and only 1 person said it with authority or something. Yeah I'm not sure all right? Let's move on again.
[29:24] Mike: Right? yeah.
[29:31] Keith: This person says we tried a cam roulette site and it led to amazing sex. So I a 25 year old female decided to join my boyfriend a 29 year old male on one of those cam sites where it connects you to strangers who are mainly men stroking at ah lol. My boyfriend has been pretty open about him using the site before. He just likes the idea of papal watching him which I'm fine with it was never a thought of mine to try it. I didn't think I had the right type of body or ah of body for it. But oh man was I wrong to see these guys get so excited at seeing me and calling it sexy. How I was stroking my boyfriend and telling me how hot I was. Omg. These horny guys couldn't get enough of me and it felt great. We didn't show our faces just our bodies. This is the first time I've done something like this but I have to admit I'm hoping to get to do it again. We were on it for maybe an hour just teasing I made my boyfriend come on cam and then we shut the laptop off and had such amazing sex I don't think I've been as wet before. Usually after my boyfriend comes. He's not able for a second round unless there's hours in between but that had to be the best sex we've ever had there any other couples out there who do this? Why was this sex after so amazing I'm trying to think of something more irresponsible than just broadcasting. Yourself having sex with your partner on what is it omega or what? what it isn't that one of the is omega, the omega still the main live chat site.
[30:51] Mike: Well yeah I mean well I mean yeah there there you mean the the sort of unpaid random ones not thing not campsites.
[31:02] Keith: Yeah, look look if you're on Chatterbait and you're like hustling and you're making some cash from this I think there's some risk that in the future that that could be career limiting in fact, wasn't there that state Congressman woman who had an issue with that. Ah, we we discussed that in a prior episode. But.
[31:14] Mike: Um, yeah.
[31:20] Keith: This is getting all of the downside perhaps even more and none of the upside correct.
[31:25] Mike: Yeah, it's sort of online exhibitionism there are there is like a category on Chatterbait for exhibitionists where there are. They're not trying to get money and they just are broadcasting themselves and yeah, it's it's generally less attractive people. A lot of men solo men. I mean you know men have a tendency to like to just point the camera at their crotch and beat off so then you can't really tell who it is right.
[31:50] Keith: Yeah, they don't have the risk either when do you think Ai will be able to recognize somebody from their body signature I don't know like if you if you saw me if you saw a picture of me from the head down a I can't currently.
[31:59] Mike: Oh like a penis detector penis print.
[32:09] Mike: You mean from the neck neck down or whatever like yeah.
[32:09] Keith: Use that to find but sorry from the neck down. Whatever um, but eventually there will be such a library of like all the you know stupid iphone pictures ever taken fed into an Ai somewhere and it should be able to extrapolate.
[32:21] Mike: Well I mean the clothes clothes operate is like a confounder there right.
[32:27] Keith: A little bit imagine if you had infinite memory and you had access to all the photos ever taken I think you would be able to see like you know various stuff but they wouldn't need to be nude like if you saw me in like.
[32:36] Mike: Maybe but I don't have nude photos of everybody I'm a little skeptical of that. Actually.
[32:46] Keith: You know, like if there's a picture of me like scuba diving and in swim trunks or something you know like there's just enough information out there. Um, maybe it's 10 years but I don't think it's 20
[32:49] Mike: That's true.
[32:55] Mike: I Don't know I don't know if I mean so so your face retains a certain look and that might be adaptive for humans that your face remains recognizable. But I'm not sure if like your Torso remains recognizable in the same way.
[33:06] Keith: Um, yeah.
[33:13] Mike: I'm not sure. There's an adaptive benefit fit to that. So I suspect that if you take people's torsos. You know you take a picture every year I'm not sure you could even tell it's the same person just from the torso.
[33:24] Keith: Huh My intuition is that body parts change less than the face. But I don't know it's an interesting point.
[33:28] Mike: Yeah, well I mean but facial geometry is important how humans recognize each other so I don't know what was yeah, what was the question here though. The overarching question.
[33:34] Keith: Um, right.
[33:41] Keith: Oh I don't even remember all that. Ah no, it's not the shittting. Ah oh are there any couples out there who do this? Why is the sex after so amazing.
[33:48] Mike: No, we don't need to do any more. Oh right? Sorry sorry yeah so yeah, so you okay, you're basically talking about the risk that people are identified via these videos can be found etc. Um, yeah I mean that's it that look that's any. In most cases, their faces on there right are in a lot of cases. Ok.
[34:11] Keith: Yeah, she says that their faces't on it. But yeah, another thing you see I've seen this on chatter day myself and my experience there is quite limited ah especially compared to you. Um, how.
[34:21] Mike: Yes.
[34:26] Keith: I Mean every once in a while like they mess up the camera angle and and their head is like briefly on on camera and so an astute observer could screen capture and stuff.
[34:34] Mike: I Mean there are definitely services that download the entire the stream and so all those streams are being recorded somewhere and so if you show your face even for an instant somebody's going to be able to figure out who you are just like the thing where if if you show.
[34:44] Keith: Yep yep.
[34:54] Mike: Ah, the exterior of your house or whatever they'll be able to figure out where exactly you are because there are these sleuths out there that can figuregure that stuff out. So yeah, those are those are all risks in addition to the sort of facial recognition risk. Um, but people you know it's a fetish people want.
[35:02] Keith: Yep.
[35:10] Mike: There is a set of people that want to do exhibitionism stuff. So.
[35:14] Keith: What is going on there. Do they like the risk so like you know some people might like going to have sex in a park but I think most people would to the extent they have that fetish would want to do that.
[35:20] Mike: Do they like the risk.
[35:34] Keith: Privately Somehow you know maybe in a secluded area of the park but are some people do some people like to do it in a semi secluded area and is the excitement that they might get caught or is the excitement that they do get caught or maybe it varies.
[35:34] Mike: Um, right.
[35:48] Mike: I Think they could be either. It could be either I Usually usually what you see is people who are kind of that they might get caught because the problem with actually getting caught is that it's probably illegal and then you're going to have real consequences. You may get might get stopped and so forth. Although.
[35:51] Keith: Okay.
[36:05] Mike: Look There are people who go to like sex clubs and fuck in front of people right? So that is like a or or those like sex cruises or ah I forget there there various like resorts where this stuff happens so you know so that can happen as well.
[36:08] Keith: Yeah.
[36:15] Keith: Um, yeah.
[36:19] Keith: Yeah, that's right, there's sex parties I think those people sort of convince themselves that they're expressing some some sort of art form. So that's like a third thing.
[36:22] Mike: Yeah.
[36:31] Mike: Could be could be I mean? Yeah yeah I mean right? there's there's the question of whether you're imposing it on people unwittingly or something I I think the public stuff is typically just the risk they don't actually want to get caught. Yeah.
[36:45] Keith: Okay I think so too. But but the thing of like going on a campsite and like there's it's not that there's risk of getting caught. It's that you're you are caught here. Yeah.
[37:01] Mike: That's true. Ah yeah I mean on a on a campsite. Yeah, it's it's a little I mean look most this is becoming rarer and rarer on the Nsf w 4 1 one subreddit repeatedly or reliably or predictably.
[37:03] Keith: Anyway.
[37:19] Mike: You'll see these posts where people are looking for sort of real amateur porn and because of only fans it basically doesn't exist anymore and so I mean for better or worse people are able to monetize this stuff and so that's I mean and so then that makes you kind of wonder well did it ever exist.
[37:27] Keith: Um, yeah, yeah.
[37:36] Mike: Or was it just a different way of monetizing or were they people that were doing it hoping they'd be able to monetize it some way and only fans has just made it so that there's a system in place that allows you to do it better I'm not sure. But yeah I mean interestingly yeah I mean the the.
[37:43] Keith: Um.
[37:47] Keith: Yeah, I'm not sure either.
[37:55] Mike: I Mean the answer when people say hey where is amate really am real amateur stuff is it's in like private groups because nobody yeah I mean basically Capitalism is at work here. People don't want to post stuff unless they can make money off of it. So so you so your intuition is right? people basically don't want to do this without.
[38:06] Keith: Right.
[38:14] Mike: Profit motive.
[38:15] Keith: There's still some amateur porn. But I mean it's good that there's the profit motive because Porn hub can help them monetize or only fans.
[38:21] Mike: Right? And they and and the thing is that the people who are trying to monetize out compete the ones that aren't because the people are trying to monetize are willing to like pay somebody to post their stuff everywhere. And yeah, so.
[38:31] Keith: Right? Yeah, okay, let's move On. We're going to revisit an old topic of ours here but I have a specific question. Okay, so this person asks what happens after a partner finishes first I'm a straight female but I'm curious from all genders. What people do. Lot of times a dude will come and I'm not done yet like I get it's uncomfortable to keep writing a dick that's done. But that's what I want to do? Ah lol am I supposed to just take care of myself does the dude need a minute to chill how long until he can have the energy to finger me or something. I've had sex with multiple guys but generally not the same person so many times so I'm not sure what is normal and yes it would be lovely to find a relationship with a consistent sex. But that's a whole nother issue for another day. Okay, so we had like a 20 episode arc we were talking about. The order that orgasm should occur in and to recap I think we agreed that the man ah should come second generally and that a woman expecting a man to help them reach orgasm.
[39:25] Mike: Um, right.
[39:42] Keith: After the man has orgasmed is really imposing something quite unpleasant on on men is that that that's true. Everything is a matter of degrees. But yeah like I think ah during that. Ah.
[39:49] Mike: It's not as unpleasant as pooping an addition saying dinners served but it's it's up there right.
[40:02] Keith: Arc of our of our series there I think we were both a little bit surprised at how women how many women seem to be confused by this which is after a man has orgasmed he really there really is a cliff in his arousal and so.
[40:12] Mike: Um, right.
[40:21] Keith: Interacting with a vagina, especially one that has like his semen in or around it is really an unpleasant experience for him Now some women might say like well he should just suck it Up. You know and to some extent that it depends. If if he you know came really quickly and didn't try any foreplay and didn't do anything to help you get there then that might be an okay position to adopt. Although you should probably coach him to be better. Um, but.
[40:51] Mike: Um, right.
[40:56] Keith: Yeah, like if he didn't do it before. He's definitely not going to want to do it after.
[40:59] Mike: Yeah I mean I think that right? Yeah, so you I mean if if the if the man is racing like that if he's to he's trying to come as fast as possible or appears to be doing so it it puts the woman in kind of an untenable position.
[41:16] Keith: Yeah I mean if he's generally a selfish lover then having the attitude that like well I don't care if it's unpleasant for him. He should just do it Then that's fine. You can be a selfish lover too. But ah if he's a more normal person which is ah.
[41:24] Mike: Um, right.
[41:33] Keith: You know he gives it the old college dry and you know spends 10 to 20 minutes trying to get you off and it doesn't happen and then he comes and then you expect him to spend you know eight more minutes ah fingering you or heaven forbid going down on you.
[41:40] Mike: Um, yeah.
[41:53] Keith: Um, after he's correct. Yeah, like I think that that is I think there are a lot of women out there who don't realize how much of in a position that is.
[41:55] Mike: Deposited the seed. Yeah, it's rough.
[42:05] Mike: Yeah, it's interesting. Um, yeah and I think I think it has to do with the different experience of the refractory refractory experience of men and women. So for a woman she thinks she doesn't realize how how negative is for a guy actually was listening to a podcast this week about ah that.
[42:14] Keith: Right.
[42:25] Mike: That talked partly about the chemicals that are released and about how how during orgasm the chemicals between the man and the woman are actually male and female are are pretty similar actually sort of yeah the same chemicals are released and I think Prolactin is the one that they said is responsible for the kind of losing your erection and.
[42:41] Keith: Okay.
[42:45] Mike: Ah, be lowering you know, kind of quickly lowering your sexual interest and the interesting thing there is that women also release this on Orgasm which makes you sort of wonder what's going on there I mean obviously it doesn't ah.
[42:52] Keith: Huh.
[42:57] Keith: Yeah, they don't they don't seem to have that cratering of arousal. Um.
[43:00] Mike: Well see I sort of wonder about that I mean they might they might It's just that their ability to perform doesn't go away right? I mean if you think yeah I mean it and it might even be difficult for a woman to sort of ideate around this but you know the center of the woman's pleasure stuff.
[43:07] Keith: I say.
[43:13] Keith: Right.
[43:19] Mike: Is really the clit right? and that is sufficiently far from the vagina that yeah it doesn't actually necessarily Matter. Ah when I when I say matter it doesn't it doesn't like it's not uncomfortable for her to continue with sex. After she orgasms but her interest level may actually may well in like her horniness. Let's Call. It may well have declined significantly.
[43:41] Keith: I see so you speculate that men have more like physical discomfort in attempting to continue using their penis after orgasming whereas women because of the distance between the clit and the vagina don't have that same issue.
[43:56] Mike: Well, and also you don't have like the problem of your erections gone. Um I mean an interesting question and I don't I mean I'm trying to think about this. But if a woman comes first and then you want to come in her mouth is that a problem. To think if that's a problem like because you could imagine. She's less aroused then and she's like yeah I don't want to do that and I think that's not typically a problem that's not but but maybe women don't give voice to it and it is. You know you see what I'm saying like she might she might be less interested in that activity after she's orgasmed.
[44:21] Keith: Yeah I.
[44:26] Keith: Yeah, yeah I mean one of the things that comes with the suppression of Arousal is of raising of Disgust. Um, and so I would expect if women had an analogous experience after the orgasm.
[44:35] Mike: Right.
[44:45] Keith: To men they would start finding things like having a cock in their mouth disgusting.
[44:50] Mike: It's possible. Yeah I mean yeah, it. It seems like it might change things where things where they yeah things with things where they yeah were there where there's like a disgust element to it. That's the key whereas PIVSex would not have that same feeling necessarily. Um. Yeah, it's interesting. Um.
[45:10] Keith: Yeah, um, all right on the topic of klits this person says I a 19 year old female was told I have a small clit by a guy I was hooking up with. Any of you guys been told this before I've never heard such a thing it unlocked a new insecurity I never knew I had or even thought of ah.
[45:30] Mike: Was that is that shouldn't it be a security I mean isn't which what is the most ideal clit size. Okay, but ah is there too small.
[45:36] Keith: Definitely not too large.
[45:44] Keith: Well okay I mean arguing by extremes you want them to have a clit so you don't want it to be 0 Ah, and then I mean I've you know, experienced clits that are like you know, pretty up in there under the hood. Um.
[45:47] Mike: Okay.
[45:57] Mike: Okay, but does it matter to you.
[46:01] Keith: No I think women with larger clits I don't know I don't have a large enough sample size here. But I think my intuition is that it's easier for them to orgasm than what I don't know I don't I don't know for sure. That's just a.
[46:16] Mike: You think I'm so it it would be so it be purely aesthetic for you. Okay, um.
[46:21] Keith: Extemporaneous intuition. Yeah in terms of I've well assuming that there's not some sort of like material difference in ability to orgasm.
[46:32] Mike: Um, right right.
[46:35] Keith: Like for example, a man with a with a three inch penis and a man with an eight inch penis both have the same ability to orgasm. There's other problems there but like that the size of the penis doesn't affect the like ability to orgasm. So.
[46:40] Mike: But there's well, it's I assume the eight inches hang up.
[46:50] Keith: I would expect the size of the clit doesn't affect the ability to orgasm either except except for that It's a little bit tricky to like stimulate if it's too small.
[47:00] Mike: Ok, but you so so but I think what you're getting at here is that you want it to be like exactly average right? like too big I think aesthetically is a problem and too Small. You're worrying that it will be difficult to manipulate or something. And also maybe aesthetic. Aesthetically,, There's a problem there like does it turn you on that. There's a clipt there. Okay.
[47:25] Keith: Um, I think so but I think you'll there will always be a hood So like even if the clit's really small like the the thing you can mostly see as the hood anyway.
[47:34] Mike: Um, ah.
[47:41] Mike: That's right I don't think men sexualize that part of the woman that I mean it's ironic right? You think it would be highly but I think men sort of don't care. So so yeah, saying commenting on the size of it is sort of neither here nor there or something doesn't.
[47:45] Keith: Yeah, it is. Yeah yeah.
[47:54] Keith: Well I expect he was having problems. He probably couldn't get her to come and so he's like oh you're clit small. She's nineteen so he's probably young blame as victim blaming.
[47:58] Mike: Idle.
[48:03] Mike: Ah, your clits small. That's a that's pretty funny I Actually when you said that I yeah I thought you were going to say that she'd said his co and his penis was small and then he says well your clits small. Yeah.
[48:14] Keith: Oh right right.
[48:20] Mike: Um, yeah I don't but I think that men generally don't like that's not It's it's a little bit like there are people that sexually fetish or fetishize the anus. A female, a woman's anus and that's always a little weird to me right? and I think fetishizing the clit is sort of the same. It's like It's too specific or something like men I think that the male excitement comes from like the whole picture not like 1 little piece of it although I don't maybe that's not true for you because I think when you consume porn. You actually do like zoom in on these parts right.
[48:46] Keith: Um.
[48:53] Keith: I am pretty obsessed with like yeah skin near the Vagina I don't know why it's like some sort of like indicator of Health for me. Ah I don't really care about the anus that much.
[49:00] Mike: But not near the anus.
[49:11] Keith: But to the extent I do yeah I'd like it to be like you know, pretty neat and clean I think I think most people would.
[49:11] Mike: Um, got.
[49:18] Mike: So it's yet. It's okay so you're looking for but but that's not the same as looking for something so specific female structure or something I actually think that the most arousing thing to a guy is just the lack of a penis. Ah oddly right.
[49:26] Keith: Yeah, yes, that's why yoga pants are like so arousing because it it really maximizes that sort of anatomy there.
[49:36] Mike: Yeah, it's shit right? It's just and it's ah it's actually a negative a negative thing so I mean you could imagine creating an 3 d model or something of a woman where there's just nothing there. It's like an action figure right? and I so I think that might. Well be arousing to a man as well. Just because there's the just not meaning. There's no vagina just nothing would also be potentially arousing to a guy. Yeah, that's what I mean exactly I assume that's how do barbie Dolls have are they fully functional I assume not they don't have vulva vulve.
[49:59] Keith: Well like a Barbie doll.
[50:10] Keith: No, they do not no they they very famously just have nothing there just more rounded molded plastic.
[50:15] Mike: But I wait there there was hang on I was sort of womansplained too about this when the Barbie movie came out that there was a barbie. Maybe I wonder if you know about this there was a barbie that came out where you would like rotate its arm or do something and it's and it would grow up. And part of it growing up is its breasts would grow. Yes and I can look it up while we're talking. But yeah that that's a real thing that I mean it's not ah genitals. Ah, but it's.
[50:36] Keith: What what year did that Barbie come out.
[50:49] Keith: Ah, yeah I mean breasts growing are are presss not considered genitals I Guess not.
[50:51] Mike: Yeah, the little barbie that grew blessed. It was it was called skipper growing up skipper. It's 2 dolls and one for twice as much fun and the other key is there was like this rubber. Yeah, you could. There's a Youtube video of it there there there. It's this rubber stuff that like you rotate her arm and then yeah like it has. 2 points that poke out and they get bigger I don't think it was a particularly popular toy. Um.
[51:16] Keith: That's unbelievably on woke I mean the last scene. Okay spoiler alert for Barbie movie listeners so watch out the last scene in the Barbie movie is she goes to an obbi guy right.
[51:32] Mike: Um I didn't watch it What happened what? what happens.
[51:33] Keith: Oh well, she basically acknowledges that she is a vagina she she like decides to stay in the real world instead of Barbie land and the last scene is she like goes to a gynecologist.
[51:41] Mike: Okay.
[51:48] Mike: For why I owe I see so it's just it's just like kind of a ah a throwaway scene. Yeah okay I see.
[51:49] Keith: Because she's a woman now.
[51:56] Keith: That's like a wink to the audience or something but like that was the ultimate expression of feminism or something. The movie is incoherent it it really I As a feminist think piece.
[52:05] Mike: Um, is going. Um.
[52:12] Keith: It is a disaster but people loved it. Okay, this person says what was this genital perfume that she used I Met a girl at a house party that I kind of invited myself to we're having a great conversation started getting sexy and exchanged oral sex when its my turn to dive I was mindblown.
[52:13] Mike: How okay.
[52:29] Keith: She was super fresh between her legs like she didn't dance and drink beer for hours. It Smellt like candy and had a very gentle fruity taste not like actual sweets but still somehow sweet and long lasting. It felt like some sweetener so suose aspartame etc was in the mix the extra flavor got me much more into it. Compare drinking tap water to drinking flavored water smiley face I can't ask because the whole meeting with her. It felt like we weren't supposed to make anything more out of this I don't think she even told me her real name tried asking. The only person I knew in this party and he had no idea who I'm talking about it feels like it would be super awkward to go on a woman hunt. It's not like I'm trying to get into a relationship with her is there any product like this and has anyone tried it before. Also maybe there's something I can prepare to do for myself like dip my peepe in a glass of dissolved sweetener and strawberry essence. Ah first comment has the answer. Ah, do you know? what? the answer is.
[53:27] Mike: I'm going to guess something kind of God What would it be I was guessing like I would I would guess some like kind of deodorate or something but now what? what.
[53:31] Keith: Yeah, apparently there are flavored pre-sex wipes. You can find them at sex shops easily enough I had some in Mango flavor and in my experience they do not give you infections or anything like that I only got them once on a whim and they were fine I wouldn't buy them again. But I appreciated the novelty. And then there's a bunch of responses like my vaginal ph is so sensitive even thinking about such wipes is making me feel discomfort down there Lll well I can't even use scented laundry detergent. Um, but yeah, so apparently there are wipes that. Ah.
[53:59] Mike: Okay, yeah.
[54:08] Keith: That are flavored for this.
[54:09] Mike: Um, yeah.
[54:13] Mike: That's a little surprise I mean it's I'm trying to think if that would be a positive I mean Okay, this guy obviously had a really positive experience from it. He liked it a lot but that's a little problematic. Yeah, ah right.
[54:20] Keith: Yeah, but he sounds like he's 14 So I don't know if we should give him too much credence here.
[54:30] Mike: I could I could imagine ah I could imagine it being kind kind of negative because no matter what it would be kind of chemical. It would you know and I I really didn't like the idea of him dipping his his pee pee in the ah in the tincture of.
[54:38] Keith: Yes.
[54:47] Mike: Whatever and whatever sugar and stuff. That's that's even odd or um I assume these wipes would be designed so they wouldn't actually mess with your vaginal Ph and so forth I've that's a little ah over the top.
[54:49] Keith: Right.
[54:59] Keith: Yeah, my guess is that in the product design meetings that would be a thing that came up pretty early. Um.
[55:05] Mike: Probably although you know yeah, you never know because people I think there's a lot of feminine products that aren't well thought truth from a health perspective ah douches come to mind.
[55:13] Keith: Yes, yeah, that's right I don't I don't know I don't mind I don't mind the chemical smell we've talked about this before but you can get those like you know toulette things and.
[55:21] Mike: Um, this is a little bit like that.
[55:32] Keith: Some people like to use that like if they're not going to shower on their on their genitals before they have sex and you've expressed in the past that you would really find that that chemical smell or I guess yeah, it's like a baby wipe.
[55:41] Mike: Well, what is it like it's like it's like lysol. It's and you the and you've experienced this well baby wipes have some kind of like lotion on them or something right.
[55:53] Keith: What would you rather? would you rather the funk. She's accumulated from a night of dancing and you know.
[55:59] Mike: Um, it's a good question. That's a good question I mean yeah I don't I don't have a good answer I Guess you're right I Guess you're right? It's It's a tricky question I mean obviously I guess I guess you'd hope that instead she would bathe.
[56:13] Keith: Yes, which I think is the way most not all but many early sexual encounters involve a shower having been had like within the last four hours or something.
[56:16] Mike: But yeah I mean.
[56:24] Mike: Yeah, maybe you could if if everybody had be days installed I Wonder if having using a be day would accomplish the same thing for a woman.
[56:30] Keith: Yeah I think bad days are great for a number of reasons and that's one of them is that you can just clean yourself off down there whenever without needing to take a shower yes, have you not didn't you live in France.
[56:40] Mike: But guys don't have used a bad day before no I haven't yeah but I have not you they did I happened to not and we didn't have 1 um, but really.
[56:50] Keith: And it just you're the bad day just stood there gathering cobwebs Really I feel like that apartment was nice enough to I mean I thought most French apartments had bad days.
[56:58] Mike: I Don't think it's that common there.
[57:04] Mike: I don't I don't think that's right, Um, but the but would you would never wash your nuts or your cock with a but day I'm trying to understand So So a woman. A woman would potentially wash her genitals with it as well as her anus but you would only.
[57:19] Keith: There's different kinds of but there are different kinds of the days there are but days that have like a little hose attachment so you could wash your your your cock I Don't think I have.
[57:25] Mike: But what right? I'm not sure what would precipitate that I guess if you were gonna have it sex.
[57:32] Keith: It would be. It would be something like the situation I just described like I was out with a woman. Maybe my partner and you know we've returned back to the hotel room and we're about to do do the deed but you know maybe we've been out and about and I'm like ah all right I'm just going to do a quick rinse down there.
[57:46] Mike: And you would you way way wait wait but if let's say there was no day. What would you do? would you use a ah a sink would you like hang your balls in the sink and wash them. Okay, so in fact, this has never occurred to you. Okay.
[57:55] Keith: I mean I'm exquisitely clean anyway. So this is sort of all academic. But yeah like I if I thought you know if we'd been like touring around all day and I was gross I'd be like I'm going to take a shower.
[58:11] Mike: Right? That's see that's yeah, that's the thing I'm thinking of and so yeah I mean you have yeah you have everything from like using wipes up to a shower but like the shower is so much better that it's sort of hard to ideate down at the wipe level. But I hear you that? yeah.
[58:14] Keith: Would you like to join me.
[58:24] Keith: Well I mean these guys sounds like they were at a frat party or something and so they may not have even had access to the shower.
[58:33] Mike: Right? Yeah, and so given I mean the beggars can't be choosers right? I mean you have no you you have very limited options and so.
[58:36] Keith: Correct I had an I had an X who called it a Ho bath when you use like moist Toel Lets like under your armpits or whatever and then.
[58:50] Mike: There's a um, yeah on Tiktok there women women categorize their showers and baths like this. Yeah right I think that's a standard term actually and but then there's like.
[58:56] Keith: Okay.
[59:01] Mike: You know, ah different levels of shower right? There's the shower where you shave everything. There's the shower where you wash your hair. There's a shower where you don't wash your hair. Um, yeah, it's sort of interesting because I think men generally just have 1 kind of shower. So it's in fact I pretty much.
[59:06] Keith: I say and they all have different meme tastic names.
[59:19] Mike: I Guess I know that from like going to locker rooms and showering and seeing other guys you can I mean just ferries.
[59:22] Keith: What kind of soap. Do you use? Do you do you have like a ah 3 and 1 or something or what do you.
[59:31] Mike: Um, why.
[59:32] Keith: Oh there's this discussion on ticktock about how men always have like 2 and 1 and or 3 and 1 soap and women have like 8 different products that they apply in some.
[59:44] Mike: So I actually installed in my shower I installed in my shower because I like ah maybe because someday I'll be in prison and I like institutional settings I installed in my shower one of those things that they have in locker rooms that like has 3 containers that are attached to the wall. Like shampoo conditioner body wash and then you put it in there from like a bulk a bulk gallon or two gallon thing and then you can push a button and it comes out so I basically do that and then I just have like ah you know rosemary mint shampoo and conditioner and like various you know.
[01:00:04] Keith: Um, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, ah.
[01:00:14] Keith: Okay.
[01:00:18] Mike: Body wash you should actually you know consider it. It's it's It's very institutional feeling every time I wash my hair because I have long hair right now at least now.
[01:00:20] Keith: How often do you use conditioner.
[01:00:28] Keith: Yeah, okay, all right? That's enough of ah the shower discussion that's going to be enough for this episode. Actually thank you for listening to this episode of your mileage may vary. Ah, we love getting feedback. You can send us feedback to ymmvpod at Gmail.com we pay $10 for any and all feedback. So just let us don't your venmo or cash app again. That's ymmvpod at Gmail.com that's also the address to ask us questions and if you don't want us to use. Your question on the air mentioned that again. That's ymmvpod at gmail.com thanks for listening and we'll catch you next week on your mileage may vary.

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