Your Mileage May Vary: Election Anxiety, Foot Fetish Faux Pas, California Taxes, Vibrator Confessions

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[00:00:01] Keith: Hello, and welcome to Your Mileage May Vary. We talk about sex and relationships with frankness that is often controversial, but mostly in good faith. I'm Keith, my co-hosts are Allie and Mike. And guys, it is ah what? We're a week away from the election.
[00:00:17] Mike: Yes.
[00:00:17] Ally: Yeah.
[00:00:19] Mike: Yes.
[00:00:19] Keith: um
[00:00:19] Mike: We're in California though, so although Allie may not vote in California, I'm not sure.
[00:00:23] Ally: I do.
[00:00:25] Mike: That's dumb, but you could you could vote elsewhere. you you you have You maintain multiple residences historically, so.
[00:00:28] Ally: Not anymore. I have had the opportunity to vote in, I guess, more of a battleground state, but I disliked that state so much that I wanted to maintain California residency.
[00:00:42] Mike: This, I like this because this maintains the general idea that, um, the coast, really the people allowed on this podcast are all people that are richer than you listeners. So you can go fuck yourselves.
[00:00:53] Keith: Why, wait, why would you not want the tax benefits of being in a of being a resident in another state?
[00:01:01] Mike: Great question. Let's hear it.
[00:01:03] Ally: I just have sort of inherent loyalty to California where it pleases me to be a California resident.
[00:01:11] Keith: To the tune of tens of thousands of dollars a year?
[00:01:11] Mike: terrible answer.
[00:01:14] Keith: Yeah, that is a bad answer.
[00:01:15] Mike: Tons of thousands.
[00:01:15] Keith: Just take the money from that other state and donate it to the like California government if you love California so much.
[00:01:21] Mike: Right.
[00:01:21] Ally: I guess. I mean, I just I would rather not pay anything to the other state's government.
[00:01:26] Keith: Oh, I see.
[00:01:26] Mike: Wow. the ah the Another answer to this, Keith, is that I have a residence in Nevada where there is no state income tax.
[00:01:28] Keith: Wow.
[00:01:34] Mike: And the problem is that if you Really, the the rule in California is you're supposed to pay taxes where you have it's not just where you are more than 180 days a year or something. It's where you have the most social connections.
[00:01:46] Mike: California is well.
[00:01:46] Keith: What?
[00:01:47] Mike: and Yeah, that's true. California is well.
[00:01:48] Keith: How did they measure that?
[00:01:51] Mike: by suing you and then having a jury decide. And so famously, I'll give you a couple examples of how crazy California is. Flight attendants when they fly over California are required to pay California income tax for the period of time they're flying over.
[00:02:03] Keith: No.
[00:02:04] Mike: cal I know that sounds wrong, but it's true. ah Athletes when they're playing like major league baseball players and so forth have to pay California income tax when they're playing games in California.
[00:02:09] Keith: I knew this one. Yep.
[00:02:13] Mike: They're very aggressive. And so ah i I purchased a home in Nevada partly because of the tax thing, but not because I was going to not pay taxes, but because I felt like it was a good investment because of the people fleeing California. And that has turned out to out to be right. It's roughly tripled in value.
[00:02:30] Mike: But um I never do that because I don't want to wind up in litigation with the state of California.
[00:02:34] Keith: Right, it's risky.
[00:02:34] Mike: I do I do know somebody fairly well who is a kind of half billionaire in crypto who moved just across the state line in Nevada to for this exact reason.
[00:02:45] Mike: And he is wound up in litigation. And it's hard because, for example, he has family members in California that he likes to visit, but he has to be very careful and ah kind of track his movements because California is so aggressive about this.
[00:02:54] Keith: hu
[00:02:59] Mike: So there you go.
[00:03:00] Keith: There's like a team of of people who go and audit your social connections, like how to.
[00:03:05] Mike: Yes. Well, like a lot of things where with where where the government's involved, just going after you. Now, this man is so wealthy that he can fight back, but honestly, just having the government attack you like this costs you so much money that most people surrender, right?
[00:03:17] Keith: Yeah.
[00:03:20] Keith: Yeah.
[00:03:20] Mike: That you just can't you can't afford because they're not going to pay for your defense.
[00:03:21] Ally: Hmm.
[00:03:23] Mike: You have to pay for it.
[00:03:24] Ally: Hmm.
[00:03:24] Mike: and that's incredibles Frankly, it's like being ditty combs. I mean, that guy's screwed and he's going to be bankrupt when his trial's over, right? Because he's fighting against the infinite wealth of the government. Not that I'm, you know, look, the guy's a bad guy probably, but you know, it's that you can't beat the government.
[00:03:41] Keith: All right. All right. Well, that was a lovely aside. ah So who are you guys voting for?
[00:03:47] Mike: So we already, Ali, did you already vote?
[00:03:49] Ally: Yeah, I'm in an all vote by mail county has already voted. um And I so I've lived in California, i've I've voted in California, I should say like my entire voting career and I've never voted for a man for anything ever. So this was one of only two times I've been able to vote for a major party candidate. So I voted for Kamala um because I'm a woman and I think that I want what to see more women in office and you know,
[00:04:12] Mike: I don't want to, I don't want to impugn your intelligence, Ali, but you did vote for, uh, walls also. So you did vote for a man.
[00:04:20] Keith: Hmm.
[00:04:20] Ally: It's okay if they're on the same.
[00:04:21] Keith: McMate.
[00:04:23] Mike: Okay.
[00:04:23] Keith: Sexist.
[00:04:23] Mike: That's okay. So, and, and you never vote for men because you're stupid or like, what's your reason for that? Like, is this like, I mean, you know that men and women have it equal average IQs, right?
[00:04:32] Ally: I guess you could say I'm like a female supremacist, but I think that there's such an imbalance that I want to only vote for women to try to make up for the imbalance in elected office, gender distributions.
[00:04:34] Mike: So there's no reason to do that.
[00:04:43] Mike: don't you think you don't you think that you have a pretty like a lot of kind of masculine traits though do you really ah do you really feel like you align with more feminine aligned people I mean I don't really know why like have you met women like women you're not you sure about this right yeah you are but you're not you're not you agree that you're not typical okay whatever
[00:04:59] Ally: Yeah, I mean, insofar as I am one, like I can't, you know.
[00:05:08] Ally: Yeah.
[00:05:09] Keith: Would you vote for yourself?
[00:05:11] Ally: Oh, yeah, yeah, I would totally vote for myself.
[00:05:13] Keith: oh
[00:05:14] Ally: yeah
[00:05:14] Mike: You could have. Okay. So you voted for Kamala Keith. Have you voted?
[00:05:18] Keith: I have not voted. I like going to the physical polling place because I think it's a fun and anthropological thing and I have
[00:05:23] Ally: Oh.
[00:05:26] Mike: This is some chance of getting laid too, right?
[00:05:26] Ally: Yeah. You get the sticker.
[00:05:30] Keith: ah No, not really.
[00:05:32] Mike: None. Okay.
[00:05:33] Keith: The polling places are kind of sad, actually. It's usually a bunch of old people are the volunteers and they're kind of confused.
[00:05:36] Ally: yeah
[00:05:37] Mike: Okay.
[00:05:42] Keith: um But that's why I like to go. i like I like seeing the sort of preposterousness of it all.
[00:05:50] Mike: Are you going to take the position you don't know who you're voting for yet?
[00:05:50] Ally: and
[00:05:52] Mike: Or are you going to be upfront about this?
[00:05:53] Keith: Well, I mean, I live in California, so Kamala will win this state handedly.
[00:05:57] Mike: It doesn't matter.
[00:05:58] Keith: I will probably vote for Jill Stein just because I'd like the notion that maybe someday there would be a third party.
[00:06:02] Mike: Ah, yes.
[00:06:11] Keith: I know it's naive and hopeless, but yes,
[00:06:12] Ally: Yeah, I've felt that way about voting for third parties too. it Isn't it like if they get more than 2% or something, they get a lot of extra funding, like more campaign funding?
[00:06:21] Keith: that's right.
[00:06:21] Mike: the and the reason I thought about voting for Jill Stein, who is the Green Party candidate for people who don't know. The the Green card Party may be the largest third party, ah maybe the libertarian ah might be up there as well.
[00:06:30] Keith: It is.
[00:06:33] Mike: ah The reason to vote for her, I think, from I've considered this strongly because ah she it would enrage Democrats the most. because they feel like there's a couple things one is they feel like they basically they feel like they didn't message well enough to you. now people Some people are still bitter about ah in the year 2000, Ralph Nader ran as the Green Party candidate and might have cost Gore the election.
[00:06:58] Mike: And just generally like there's this notion of like, hey, you've got to save democracy by voting through your vote. And it would be like you didn't understand that somehow they they failed to message to you and it would kind of drive them crazy ah that even in liberal California, you kind of miss the memo. So I like that idea that you just pissed them off.
[00:07:17] Keith: Yeah, i mean i don't I mean, there are a lot of single issue voters out there right now. There's the pro-Palestine contingent who, a lot of them have sort of come to this ah rhetorical point, which is, yeah, you you shouldn't vote for Kamala because you're just sort of furthering the machine.
[00:07:42] Keith: um I'm not sure that if Palestine is your number one issue, if Trump is going to be better. um so um i' like I understand the point of not voting for Kamala, but the problem is you're passively helping Trump there, or explicitly helping Trump.
[00:08:01] Keith: And so, if you yeah, if your single issue is you know the the rights of the people in Gaza, ah you sort of are forced to vote for Kamala. um If you're trying to like maximize their short-term interest.
[00:08:10] Mike: Now, do you guys mind, do you guys mind revealing whom you voted for in 2016 and 2020 just to give people a little more color on this? Like Ali, do you mind revealing that?
[00:08:21] Ally: Oh, in 2016, I voted for Hillary. In 2020, I voted for either the Green Party or the Peace and Freedom Party, I forget who ever had a woman running.
[00:08:30] Mike: So the presence of Harris on the ticket was not sufficient to get you to consider the Biden Harris ticket to be a woman.
[00:08:36] Ally: No, the woman has to be like in the dominant position to the man on the ticket. Like I see what you're saying about Harris-Walls, but if Harris is first, then I'll vote for her.
[00:08:42] Mike: Okay.
[00:08:43] Ally: If Harris were second, then it doesn't count.
[00:08:44] Mike: Okay. This go lines with your, your, your great love of face sitting porn and so forth.
[00:08:49] Ally: ah thank
[00:08:49] Mike: How about you, Keith?
[00:08:51] Keith: Uh, Hillary and then Stein in 2020.
[00:08:54] Mike: All right. Um, so I voted, uh, in 2016 for Donald Trump as a joke, uh, because I thought he had no chance of winning, but I was correct.
[00:09:01] Keith: I remember. Yep.
[00:09:04] Mike: And in 2020 I voted for Biden and again was correct.
[00:09:07] Keith: Oh, nice.
[00:09:08] Mike: So that should worry you both. That should worry you both because this time I voted for Donald Trump.
[00:09:13] Ally: ah
[00:09:13] Mike: And my reasoning was I was going to vote for Jill Stein. I could not vote for Kamala Harris because I'm concerned about I i detest Elon Musk.
[00:09:21] Ally: You're concerned about Palestine.
[00:09:24] Mike: Hang on. No, I don't. Well, um I don't want to talk about that because I don't want to get killed. So I'm not going to talk about that topic. But ah no, I'm not. No, I'm not concerned about Palestine. um ah donald ah So Elon Musk brought up something that I'm concerned about, too.
[00:09:37] Mike: I do view Elon Musk as one of the worst people in America. ah The worst person in America, just so you know, is this guy named Kai Rizdal. You can look him up. um Just wanted to get that in there.
[00:09:46] Keith: the Planet Money Guy?
[00:09:47] Ally: The planet money.
[00:09:48] Mike: Kai Rizdal is the worst person in America. And we can we can talk about why if you want.
[00:09:51] Keith: Yeah, he's not NPR.
[00:09:52] Mike: um he's so Yes, he's the worst person in America.
[00:09:54] Ally: oh
[00:09:56] Mike: ah Elon Musk, who I detest and have detested much longer than most people, I've detested him since like the mid 2010s for a bunch of reasons. ah he He said that the number one voting issue is ah censorship.
[00:10:12] Mike: And I actually agree with him. um And I was going to vote for Jill Stein. I was thinking about this, thinking about it. I was just going to vote for that to sort of annoy them. I cannot vote for Harris ah because I'm anti-woke. And I think she's a moron because I've listened to her talk.
[00:10:27] Mike: um And I don't think all women are morons, Allie. I don't think you're a moron, but I do think she's a moron. ah The reason why I decided, so a couple of things. One is the position the Democrats take is ah that that it's a vote for democracy and that you know essentially you've got to vote for them to save the country.
[00:10:47] Mike: And um the problem I have with that is basically it means that um no matter what how badly they do, I have to vote for them. They're basically making this argument that you're like, look, you know you have to vote for us because the other guy is just evil and a fascist.
[00:10:59] Mike: They always say this about Republicans, by the way, but that's the argument and I don't like that line.
[00:11:01] Keith: Right. but Vote blue no matter who.
[00:11:04] Mike: Right. And so it's like, okay, so you're basically saying you can just do an awful job and I still have to vote for you. And I reject that because it's like, ironically, I think that's anti-democratic, right? Because they're basically saying there's only one choice. So it's like, okay, so you're pissing on me and telling me it's raining or whatever. So I have a problem with that.
[00:11:24] Mike: Um, then another thing is along those same lines, uh, I was told recently by the Democrats that, uh, the only reason Trump did a rally in New York city and Madison square garden was because he doesn't, he can't win New York, but because he wants to win some house seats in New York that are contested, which makes sense. But I thought he was going to be a dictator. So I don't really know why he needs to win the house. That shows me that they're just lying, right? Because they, you can't have it both ways. Either he cares about the house or he's a dictator. You can't have it both ways.
[00:11:53] Mike: And the number three thing is I do think that like they have waged a campaign of censorship across the media um against half the country, ah basically labeling half the country really bad in certain ways. And I think that they deserve to be punished for that.
[00:12:11] Mike: I do not support Trump, but I voted against the Democrats and I decided that I was just tired of them and was going to vote the worst thing, the thing they really don't want me to do in order to do that.
[00:12:24] Mike: um And since my, you go ahead.
[00:12:24] Keith: if you could choose if you could If you were you know in charge and you could just choose who was going to be president, would you choose Harris or Trump?
[00:12:33] Mike: I would pick Trump.
[00:12:36] Mike: Because i just i think i think that like i I disagree fundamentally with their anti-democratic argument that you must choose one side, and I think that ah that they are the more clear and present danger. They're both awful. like these are You're having to pick between two really awful. like It's almost like having to vote for Kai Rizdahl, but not quite.
[00:12:58] Ally: right
[00:12:59] Mike: and And I think that like, but he eeks out just slightly better because he's not, he has aligned himself with pro free speech stuff, which I can, it's like, it's like you're you're on the death star, the emperor and Darth Vader are in charge and you're like, what force could maybe save us? And I think free speech has the chance of saving us. And he's aligned himself with that. So I'm like, okay, maybe maybe that'll work. But but I have no no illusions about this. Like he's a terrible man and should not be president.
[00:13:27] Keith: Yeah, I mean, the the downside risk of Trump is some sort of destabilizing of democratic norms or um worldwide but Western liberal value norms.
[00:13:39] Mike: Yeah, I mean, I don't like you know i i have an affinity.
[00:13:42] Keith: so But
[00:13:42] Ally: I think he's a very bad cabinet, and I think he does a poor job at appointing you know secretaries of the various offices. And like and I think that's because the intellectual bench on the Republican side is very shallow.
[00:13:50] Mike: Definitely. i let me just
[00:13:54] Ally: So when you're thinking about like who should be secretary of the interior or something, like you don't have really good candidates. And so he ends up picking these like shitty people who are not qualified.
[00:14:00] Keith: Yeah, like
[00:14:02] Ally: So that's like my concern.
[00:14:03] Mike: I almost don't think that means anything because I think that like, but but but I want to respond to Keith.
[00:14:05] Keith: yeah you can see, you would concede those risks, right?
[00:14:09] Mike: I do. I do. But like, I don't i don't know that like ah ah Pete Buttigieg really does anything, but maybe.
[00:14:10] Keith: Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:15] Mike: um But ah Keith, to your point about him spreading, I'm very concerned about what happens in the rest of the Western world is my life plan is to leave the United States for a place that has that's has higher quality of life.
[00:14:27] Mike: And I think most of Western Europe does ah for various reasons. um In terms of exporting anti-democratic stuff, I actually absolutely would blame Democrats for that. um The spread throughout Western Europe of their insane woke ideology.
[00:14:36] Keith: Mm.
[00:14:40] Mike: Now, i mean to be fair, everywhere except the United States pretty much has rejected, has tried and then rejected things like um trans surgeries on children. So that's good. like They've had some things they've rejected, but their ideology has creeped into, and when I say their ideology, it's things like ah they're like insane racial, just everything's race all the time.
[00:15:00] Mike: like They have these insane belief systems that are very that are spread very effectively by culture. And i don't i'm not I'm much more concerned about that than I am like fascist ideology from the right. In fact, if anything, I think fascist right ideology is coming more from Hungary and Poland and certain parts of Germany than the US. s like Those guys are way more fascist than we are. They're they're good at it.
[00:15:20] Keith: Yeah, I agree with all of those concerns. i just
[00:15:29] Keith: and And maybe it's naive, but yeah, my hope would be that when Trump exits the stage, which you know admittedly he might not do, even if he loses,
[00:15:41] Keith: um
[00:15:41] Mike: Well, he is seven. oh Oh, yeah, he will. I think both sides. I think no matter who loses, they're going to cry foul. I think both sides. I think I think there's guaranteed even if if if Harris wins, they're definitely going to accuse the Trump campaign of a bunch of shit.
[00:15:53] Keith: Yeah, I would caveat that a bit. if If Harris loses in a landslide, she'll gracefully step down. um If it's close, I yeah i don't know.
[00:16:07] Keith: I'd really hope it's not close.
[00:16:07] Mike: she'll like She'll as gracefully step down as Al Gore did. I mean, yeah, she eventually will, but Trump did too.
[00:16:10] Keith: ne
[00:16:13] Mike: He left. He didn't like, barricade himself in the White House.
[00:16:14] Keith: Yeah. I don't know. I feel like Trump leaned, Trump's modulated behavior was so dependent on the strong institutions and a few people.
[00:16:28] Keith: And I'm worried to like test those foundations again. I mean, you are too. You just are worried less about that than um yeah other concerns.
[00:16:39] Mike: I just think that, I think that, I think that the the Trumpist side is raising real problems that all do circle like a gigantic black hole around Kai Rizdal.
[00:16:50] Mike: And I think the Democrats.
[00:16:51] Ally: Wait, what is your deal with Kyra's dog?
[00:16:53] Keith: i know well I know what he's going to say here, and I think it's just not that interesting content. The problem is he's referred to it seven times now, so can you take 45 seconds to explain your Daikai Rizdal?
[00:17:02] Mike: Okay.
[00:17:06] Keith: You think he's a mouthpiece for the ah general problem, which is?
[00:17:06] Mike: Sure.
[00:17:11] Ally: Financial illiteracy, like what?
[00:17:12] Mike: ah no No, it's that it's that ah people believe that everything the Federal Reserve has done for the last 20 years has been fucking awesome. And actually, it's created this massive fiscal and monetary time bomb that's going to destroy our country ah by pumping up asset values. That's why people can't buy houses. That's why the stock market's four times what it should be. And he has just relentlessly flogged the Fed as being this great force.
[00:17:39] Mike: And actually it's really, really negative and recessions are good. We need recession. Sometimes they help reset things. And that guy has done a lot to cost that. That's it.
[00:17:50] Keith: Alright, let's talk about anal-lingus. I all right a ah had a...
[00:17:52] Mike: Hey, like hang on. Okay, go ahead. Do the analytics.
[00:17:56] Ally: yeah
[00:18:00] Keith: So normally I don't like to do this. I don't like talking about um my first dates so close to when they occur, but I had a first date last week. where um within 20 minutes, ah the the woman ah woman mentioned that ah she had discovered that that was like a ah a thing that she really, really likes.
[00:18:14] Ally: You were doing it like that.
[00:18:24] Keith: And the implication was that this was a requirement in all partners going forward, that they'd be willing to ah eat her ass. Now, this is not something I've ever done.
[00:18:34] Mike: Can you say more about her? Can you say more about her demographics or are you not willing to just because it might help people understand who this is better?
[00:18:41] Keith: I don't think that's relevant, and no, I won't anyway.
[00:18:42] Mike: OK.
[00:18:43] Keith: so um
[00:18:44] Mike: OK, OK, fair.
[00:18:46] Keith: ah I'm curious.
[00:18:47] Ally: But like, what about age? Can you say age range?
[00:18:50] Keith: I don't think it's relevant.
[00:18:50] Mike: He doesn't want to, it's fine.
[00:18:52] Ally: Okay. okay
[00:18:53] Mike: Yeah.
[00:18:54] Keith: We could talk offline, but yeah, both of you guys seem to think it's relevant.
[00:18:56] Ally: No, I know, because you told me about this, or you told us about it.
[00:18:57] Keith: i't I know. I know, but I'm curious why you guys think that's relevant.
[00:19:00] Ally: I think like it's usually associated
[00:19:02] Keith: Anyway, this is bad content. In fact, we might even consider cutting that out. um the The thing that's interesting to me is that I would expect that anybody that comes forward with that as a requirement so soon but is sort of shooting themselves in the foot a little bit.
[00:19:18] Keith: I think most men, well, I don't know, maybe young people these days are more into this.
[00:19:24] Ally: See, that that's what I mean.
[00:19:24] Keith: these
[00:19:25] Ally: That's why I brought this up. I've heard this discussed maybe even by us previously as like, oh, eating ass is like a Gen Z thing.
[00:19:31] Mike: Yeah.
[00:19:33] Mike: It's okay.
[00:19:33] Keith: Yeah.
[00:19:34] Mike: It's okay Keith. You don't have to say, but yeah, I, I ever heard that too. And so it's a little like, it this person is not Gen Z. i I happen to know that. So fine. We can move on from that, but like, yeah, it's, it's, this is somebody who's discovered an affinity for this later in life.
[00:19:41] Keith: yeah person is's not cancel
[00:19:48] Keith: Yeah, for starters, it is something that I would consider doing. um i I mean, i think I think when you are sufficiently aroused, your disgust reflex gets very suppressed and
[00:19:54] Mike: Hmm. Oh no.
[00:20:04] Mike: and Can you be more specific about what you would and would not consider doing? Like you would rub the exterior with your tongue, would you go in?
[00:20:10] Keith: So I think ah they would have to have showered within an hour. Like I don't want to like, I don't want to like go out and like we're walking around and you know, they may or may not have used the restroom, you know, while we were out and about like, i yeah, I want to stipulate that it's as reasonably clean as can be as can be done.
[00:20:15] Mike: Okay, let's stipulate that.
[00:20:24] Mike: Sure.
[00:20:30] Keith: Now there's still the issue of, you know, there's stuff inside. So, ah you know, I don't know if like the, um, anal-lingus receiver ah really enjoys having their there butthole actually punctured by my tongue.
[00:20:49] Keith: But if that's if that's part of it, yeah, I mean i don't know like what, and maybe people have different preferences here.
[00:20:51] Mike: It's really hard to know.
[00:20:57] Keith: you know Maybe some people just like a little bit of pressure from your tongue. Maybe some people just like the yeah so subservience that the person doing it is demonstrating. But Yeah, if I've got to like put my tongue in there.
[00:21:11] Keith: um ah Yeah, that's not... I don't think... and i don't I don't know if I'd be willing to do that.
[00:21:19] Ally: the fact that she yeah Does the fact that she brought this up on a first date imply something to you about the kind of relationship she wants to have or like the kind of partner that she would be like, does this imply to you that it's more like a
[00:21:19] Keith: You're definitely going to get poop on your tongue if you do that.
[00:21:35] Keith: I don't know. I thought the date went ah fairly well. um A few days went by and I messaged her something. I wasn't to actually, I wasn't intending.
[00:21:45] Ally: It was just a tongue emoji question.
[00:21:50] Keith: I wasn't necessarily planning on not seeing her again. I think I was probably not interested, but I sort of said that, I said like a couple things and then she just responded like, oh, okay, take care.
[00:22:02] Keith: um So um i I think, I don't know where things would have gone if I had seen her a couple more times and we had gotten into the bedroom, but ah fortunately,
[00:22:03] Ally: Oh.
[00:22:14] Ally: what What kind of things did you say that immediately indicated you were not interested?
[00:22:19] Keith: I don't remember. I don't think it indicated that I was not interested. I think I expressed, I think in so many words, I expressed a little bit of hesitation about how forward she was ah about various sexual preferences.
[00:22:35] Keith: And I sort of coded it that way, but it was obvious what I was trying to say.
[00:22:39] Ally: Huh, okay.
[00:22:40] Mike: So and so like my when when when Keith told me about this, my interpretation of it was that she it's this is not about physical pleasure so much as it's about um her wanting to feel the emotion of somebody kind of fully accepting her body.
[00:22:41] Keith: And she might've noped it up because of it.
[00:22:59] Mike: um kind of doing whatever she wants. like There's some sort of joy she gets out of a guy just just unleashing and going wild and this kind of stuff. and I was skeptical that, I know that the anus has some nerve endings and so forth, but I was skeptical that that would explain ah the desire here.
[00:23:20] Mike: I don't know, Allie, if you have a opinions about that.
[00:23:20] Ally: Well, do you think it's about domination? and like
[00:23:24] Mike: Sure. i mean it's just yeah well I mean, maybe a female form of domination, so like kind of an emotional one.
[00:23:28] Ally: Right, right. I, yeah, I guess. I mean, it's so disgraceful to me to contemplate, like.
[00:23:31] Mike: I mean, would you in any,
[00:23:36] Mike: so you, would there's no situation even like with Saran wrap over it that you would, or something where you would find somebody stimulating your anus compelling. You've never put it this way. Have you ever, when using the toilet and like, wow, this feels good as something passed through your anus?
[00:23:48] Ally: No. No.
[00:23:50] Mike: Because I have no, because I have, I have, I mean, I think Keith, have you experienced this?
[00:23:53] Ally: Okay.
[00:23:55] Keith: Yeah.
[00:23:55] Mike: We're like, yeah, a little bit.
[00:23:56] Keith: I mean...
[00:23:57] Ally: In a sexual way.
[00:23:59] Mike: Yeah.
[00:24:00] Ally: Oh, no, I haven't.
[00:24:00] Mike: Yeah.
[00:24:01] Ally: I mean, sometimes like it feels good to have gone to the bathroom because it feels good to have that like empty feeling like, you know, like, oh, there's nothing, you know, inside me, but like.
[00:24:06] Mike: Wait,
[00:24:07] Keith: This is gross.
[00:24:10] Mike: are you being wait are you being totally honest here though? Because I mean, there's if you look at anatomically, but there's very little distance between the rectum and the vagina. And so it's going to feel somewhat similar to being penetrated, right?
[00:24:22] Mike: I mean, are you're sure that there's just no sexual release or, you don't think so, Keith?
[00:24:26] Ally: I think it feels very different from being penetrated.
[00:24:29] Mike: Well, sure. But I mean, there's like that you're being you're stretching you're stretching an orifice that's just right next door to the other one.
[00:24:35] Keith: No, proximity doesn't matter here.
[00:24:35] Mike: like
[00:24:37] Keith: like my you know that The top of my thigh is close too, but like rubbing it doesn't do much for me sexually.
[00:24:43] Mike: Well, okay. But what I'm saying is a little informed because often if you read pet women's reports online, women will describe kind of stretch, like kind of feelings in that region getting a little conflated.
[00:24:55] Mike: So I don't think it's like totally crazy, like pressure, stretching, these kinds of things. Admittedly, it's different. Okay, fine. Ali's just like, absolutely not.
[00:25:02] Keith: It's possible.
[00:25:02] Ally: Well, I mean.
[00:25:02] Keith: I mean, yeah it's worth the question.
[00:25:03] Ally: yeah Yeah, I've never felt anything sexual from peeing either, and that's even closer.
[00:25:05] Mike: All right. So there's.
[00:25:12] Mike: and True, OK. Yeah, I mean, that peeing is a little bit there. are't Look, there are people that kind of get sexual arousal from peeing and things.
[00:25:19] Ally: Yeah, I mean, and yeah, this woman might be one of those people.
[00:25:24] Keith: Well, all squirters appear to.
[00:25:27] Ally: Right.
[00:25:27] Mike: you didn't So Keith, when this came up, you just said, OK, and moved on, you because I definitely would have I can't I wouldn't be able to stop myself.
[00:25:31] Ally: yeah
[00:25:33] Mike: I would have been like, hold up. And I would have wanted to talk about that for like 20 minutes. I mean, like what, why? Like, why is it now like a must have for you?
[00:25:43] Ally: Yeah.
[00:25:43] Mike: Like that's, that would be quite surprising to me. And I would be like, this is a huge, like we need to talk about this.
[00:25:46] Keith: No, I did interrogate her about it a bit and she said it was something like.
[00:25:48] Mike: Okay. Yeah.
[00:25:55] Keith: She said it felt like you were like plugging or unplu plugging and then unplugging a computer, which I thought was a weird thing to say. But I think what she meant is maybe as the tongue is going in and out, she was getting these like almost electric pulses through her body that didn't really comport with anything that I've felt.
[00:26:03] Mike: Hmm.
[00:26:12] Ally: ah
[00:26:14] Keith: And so that that did make a whole lot of sense to me, but that's what she described.
[00:26:20] Mike: I'm trying to, yeah, the thing I'm thinking of is like sometimes when you're using the restroom, like you can feel like kind of your anus snap shut a little bit. ah And I'm sort of imagine, well, kind of, right?
[00:26:29] Ally: It's like a steel cramp.
[00:26:30] Keith: i
[00:26:32] Mike: I mean, it can be, well, kind of like it can, yeah you know what, ah everybody knows what I'm talking about here. Like, it you know, you have this cylindrical thing passing through and then it closes and I'm like, okay, that could be, you know, it's kind of quick.
[00:26:44] Mike: It doesn't, if it stayed open a long time, that would be kind of inconvenient, right?
[00:26:47] Ally: Yeah.
[00:26:48] Mike: An animal could go in or something.
[00:26:48] Keith: I mean, my experience is a bit different here, actually.
[00:26:54] Mike: Okay.
[00:26:55] Keith: Okay. Okay. For starters, are you guys aware of the, I can't remember what it's called. There's like some scale, uh, it's called, oh yeah, the Bristol stool chart.
[00:27:05] Ally: Oh yeah, yeah.
[00:27:05] Mike: Psi.
[00:27:05] Keith: And there's like different, different kinds of poop, but generally,
[00:27:08] Ally: Yeah.
[00:27:10] Mike: Yeah.
[00:27:10] Ally: So you're about a little softer than maybe Mike's are.
[00:27:12] Keith: Yeah, i think i think I think mine must be. Look, they're not soft. okay they're They're the normal softness. But yeah, like but the poop is tapered a little bit. So yeah I don't have that snapping.
[00:27:22] Mike: That's true.
[00:27:22] Keith: I have. like Sometimes when I'm like very dehydrated or whatever.
[00:27:24] Mike: What's it's not snapping like it's snapping across like a second or something.
[00:27:25] Ally: ah
[00:27:29] Mike: So like it's enough time for the taper to go.
[00:27:30] Ally: <unk>s Like a rubber band.
[00:27:31] Mike: And then it closes. I mean, it's not, it's not, come on.
[00:27:33] Keith: OK.
[00:27:34] Ally: Stretch tacos.
[00:27:37] Ally: Yeah.
[00:27:38] Mike: I just, it just made sense to be the analogy with the, uh, plugging and unplugging.
[00:27:38] Ally: yeah
[00:27:40] Keith: OK, OK, OK.
[00:27:41] Mike: I was like, okay, I can sort of, although the the thing I don't get with that, I mean, to be fair, it's not a good analogy because like, I don't think your tongue would dilate her enough to make it snap like that.
[00:27:42] Ally: yeah
[00:27:49] Mike: Right. So it's a little confusing.
[00:27:50] Ally: know
[00:27:51] Keith: Uh, I'm just sorry. I'm just holding my tongue here. Uh, you can, you can change, you can change the, um, you know, like the hardness and the shape of your tongue a bit.
[00:28:00] Ally: wait
[00:28:06] Mike: I think it would be really hard to get your tongue more than a centimeter inside someone's anus. I think it would be very difficult because you have the butt cheeks in the way that you have to spread. and i just think I'm not sure we'd have to get some feedback from a listener on this one who does this, but like I don't think you're getting in very far with a finger, obviously you can, but that's because your face doesn't have to be there.
[00:28:23] Keith: Mm-hmm.
[00:28:24] Ally: Oh, cut.
[00:28:28] Mike: like you
[00:28:29] Keith: Yeah.
[00:28:30] Mike: Maybe she has a really particularly small butt. Did you see the size of her butt? Maybe it's pretty thin.
[00:28:36] Keith: It was not particularly. It wasn't.
[00:28:40] Mike: Okay. So maybe she gets more, but but this would make it more unpleasant for you because then she's expecting you to really get your tongue in there and like kind of roto root her out.
[00:28:41] Keith: It was immediate mid meat medium.
[00:28:50] Keith: Yeah.
[00:28:50] Mike: It's rough.
[00:28:50] Keith: ah You know, I hadn't really connected the thought that the computer electricity description with that must be like a tongue going in and out.
[00:29:00] Mike: I think so.
[00:29:01] Keith: Oh, man.
[00:29:01] Mike: I think she wants aggressive anal angus.
[00:29:04] Keith: Okay. Well, maybe.
[00:29:05] Ally: I've never liked anyone enough to want to put my face in their ass. so
[00:29:10] Keith: Well, it's like I look, it's not like high on my list of things to do.
[00:29:14] Mike: Ali's never been in love.
[00:29:16] Keith: I've never done it, but I could imagine ah being aroused enough that it's it's tolerable. I don't know if I would ever get to the point of pleasurable, like I like i like going down on women, but you know, if it's relatively clean, I think it might be okay.
[00:29:31] Mike: Ali, this is just, this is just the level of what, I mean, you, yes, but you would like to have somebody like put you up on a cross to be dominated.
[00:29:41] Ally: That's totally different. Yeah.
[00:29:42] Mike: Well, for you, but I would view them, I would view them as equally aggressive. Like they're both pretty f freaking aggressive. So you like Ali.
[00:29:49] Ally: I mean, I could be and could be crucified without any potential for E.
[00:29:49] Keith: Yeah, I'm with Mike here.
[00:29:54] Ally: coli transmission. Like like the cleanliness of one far outstrips the cleanliness of the other.
[00:30:00] Mike: Ali got in trouble at work recently for watching caning videos from Singapore because it turns her on.
[00:30:05] Ally: ah
[00:30:06] Mike: She's like, that sounds hot.
[00:30:10] Ally: None of my jobs monitor any electronic activity, as you know.
[00:30:10] Keith: and
[00:30:14] Mike: Okay. Fair enough.
[00:30:16] Keith: All right, let's move on here. Oh, oh you have more on you to lingus.
[00:30:18] Mike: Well, hang on, Keith. I had a dream. I had a dream recently that I wanted to bring up.
[00:30:22] Keith: Okay.
[00:30:22] Ally: yeah
[00:30:23] Mike: So I dreamt that I was in Hawaii. This, I think this dream came from Keith's life.
[00:30:26] Keith: Nice.
[00:30:30] Keith: Hmm.
[00:30:31] Mike: I dreamt that I was in a hotel in Hawaii with four say 20 year old women. And they all wanted to have sex with me. And so then the dream was, so then the dream got weird later.
[00:30:45] Mike: It turned out they were all very religious and their minister came in and they had to leave. But before that happened, uh, they all wanted to have sex with me and they were taking turns.
[00:30:55] Keith: How are they communicating that want?
[00:30:56] Ally: Hula of course.
[00:30:58] Mike: It's a dream, so I was a little confused.
[00:31:00] Keith: Right.
[00:31:00] Mike: No, no, you they were they they were they were on vacation, so they were all, and they each looked different, like there was a brunette, there was an Asian girl.
[00:31:03] Ally: Okay.
[00:31:07] Mike: um They all wanted to try my penis in their mouth individually, one at a time, so I obliged. and And then I remember sort of lying with one of, like kind of with my head on one of their breasts while another one was sort of fondling me and so forth.
[00:31:15] Keith: Ah, magnanimous.
[00:31:24] Mike: um But here's the important thing. Actually, I was totally like I didn't want to have sex with any of them. They were very attractive, but I felt I felt the age gap too much and was like, this is i't I'm actually not attracted to you.
[00:31:35] Keith: phone.
[00:31:37] Mike: And so and that was really interesting to me. I mean, like i they were it was women that I should biologically be super attracted to. And it just the whole thing was kind of like, oh, yeah, I guess. And I think I was worried also about whether I could sexually perform like I was kind of like, I don't yeah, I don't think I can sexually perform up to what they need in terms of like
[00:31:55] Ally: um
[00:31:56] Mike: Being able to orgasm quickly enough for like it aroused enough or something like that like I mean I think I get aroused reasonably well and orgasm recently quickly, but Yeah, so so I think it was a little bit like Based on some conversations you and I've had but like so the point is like I think the dream was telling me like hey You you you can't do this
[00:32:14] Keith: What do you do when you look at porn like do you only look at grandmother porn or like what's
[00:32:14] Ally: Hmm. Hmm.
[00:32:20] Mike: No, I think that I think that i I think that because I don't have to physically be there and there's like a guy or whatever that's accomplishing that part of the objective that I can sort of like voyeuristically. And also, yeah, it's i don't it's not real. As soon as it's real, like I have to deal with like myself as who I am, which is tricky. It's like, hmm.
[00:32:40] Keith: Yeah.
[00:32:41] Mike: You don't feel like when you're dating a younger lady, you don't feel any sort of like imposter syndrome. I would call it imposter syndrome. It's like, this isn't like, this is like, not that it's wrong ah morally. It's not that at all. It's like, I was like, I can't, I can't do what they need here.
[00:32:57] Keith: ah I mean, with young people, there's a knowledge gap, right? Just because I've had more life experience.
[00:33:04] Mike: Yeah.
[00:33:07] Mike: Mm hmm.
[00:33:07] Keith: But there doesn't necessarily need to be an intelligence gap. And so you can still have interesting conversations and like respect what somebody thinks, even if they don't know as much about the world as you.
[00:33:20] Mike: It wasn't that it was like, it was like I was in the movie back to the future or something. It's like, I'm not like they, they should, they don't want to have sex with me. It's like, this is not what should, what they want.
[00:33:32] Ally: ah Or that like you don't have the physical stamina or the like responsiveness that you think they are looking for.
[00:33:38] Mike: Something like that. It's like, it's like, this is just like not, yeah.
[00:33:39] Keith: It was like misaligned ah intentions or incentives or.
[00:33:43] Mike: Yeah, it's not anything about like, I'm not attacking their IQs or their knowledge of the world or anything. It's just like, I'm looking at them, they're super attractive, but I'm like, yeah, this part of my life has passed. Like, this is not, this is not, and you're right, absolutely right.
[00:33:55] Mike: And porn, like that part somehow hasn't passed. So like, it's still there.
[00:33:59] Ally: Yeah. see that because you're like, oh, you know, a 20 year old or something wants somebody to like, fuck them hard for an hour at like 2am after you've been out all night. And like, you're like, I'm not physically that person.
[00:34:11] Mike: Well, and also it's, I think, I think, but I think more importantly, uh, it just didn't feel possible. It's like, this isn't, there there must, they must be just like play acting. Like this can't be something they actually want to have happen. This must be, there's something wrong with these people or there's something wrong with the situation. And then their pastor came in and it was like, Oh yeah, there, there, there you go.
[00:34:31] Ally: They were trying to recruit you into their like religion or something.
[00:34:35] Mike: Pretty good religion if they were.
[00:34:35] Keith: i think I think there are like two divergent things there. Like I think you're right that a person in their twenties, if looking for a person to start a family with,
[00:34:47] Mike: Hmm.
[00:34:48] Keith: ah they probably shouldn't you know consider people that are way older than them.
[00:34:53] Mike: Right.
[00:34:53] Keith: um But if they're looking for somebody that can like you know take them out to dinner other than Applebee's and who knows their way around a woman's body and who can like you know tear themselves away from playing Modern Warfare 6 to spend some time with them,
[00:34:58] Mike: Hmm.
[00:35:18] Keith: I think there could be some benefits to to dating older men.
[00:35:18] Mike: Yeah.
[00:35:21] Keith: The problem is, yeah, like what if you what if you fall for him? it it's It's not a good long-term ah strategy because you'll be left holding the bag.
[00:35:30] Mike: what do you So you never feel imposter syndrome. like Forget about, like just talk about all the age ranges if you've you've dated. You've dated a wide variety of age ranges. It doesn't actually matter. There's no age range where you're like, I feel imposter syndrome here.
[00:35:42] Keith: No, I think there is.
[00:35:43] Mike: Okay. Oh, there is.
[00:35:44] Keith: um Yeah, I think
[00:35:44] Mike: Okay.
[00:35:47] Keith: Yeah, I should have said, yeah, I think there is. um And with some people, it I feel it more profoundly than others.
[00:35:49] Mike: Okay.
[00:35:55] Keith: And you know with those yeah with those, I just move on.
[00:35:55] Mike: So it's the person in particular.
[00:35:59] Keith: and um Right, of course.
[00:36:00] Mike: Yeah. These women were definitely in my dream were kind of caricatures, right? So they obviously like, yeah, so it was very like, yeah, they're caricatures. So it was easier, like there wasn't any depth.
[00:36:10] Mike: So it's easier to feel just like what's going on here.
[00:36:12] Keith: Right. Yeah, well, it was a caricature of your concern with this generally.
[00:36:13] Mike: Yeah.
[00:36:17] Mike: I guess. It wasn't positive, man. It should have been. It was like it was like a great sex dream that was actually kind of negative.
[00:36:23] Keith: Yeah.
[00:36:23] Ally: So I frequently, you know, dated men who are substantially older than me and it does get a little bit annoying the extent to which, you know, like they can't stay up till midnight, right? Like they definitely need to be in bed by 10 or like they're, you know, not going to get the same like strength of erection or maybe not get erections without a pill or something.
[00:36:47] Ally: There are yeah there are like physical limitations that are noticeable. And that's even you know between my age and theirs. It's not between like a 20-year-old and a 50-year-old. I could imagine that. Or, well, I mean, I've i've been in that position.
[00:36:57] Mike: I don't actually have, I have, I don't have any of those problems actually.
[00:36:58] Ally: There are substantial differences.
[00:37:01] Mike: So it's like even more pronounced if I did it, but I don't actually, I don't need a pill and I can stay up after midnight. No problem. But I don't know. All right.
[00:37:12] Keith: Yeah. um All right. Yeah, let's move on here. I don't want my wife. Okay. I don't remember what this is about. it's ah sort I don't want my wife to indulge in my fetish.
[00:37:24] Keith: I had a feet fetish that I was keeping from my wife. She discovered it on her own by browsing my laptop.
[00:37:28] Mike: Oh...
[00:37:30] Keith: That turned into her inserting herself into my fetish. I love my wife but I don't find her feet sexy. I prefer it if she doesn't indulge in it with me. I just don't know how to tell her without killing her confidence. So it's got me to thinking. like I think I'd be pretty hurt if my partner had a masturbatory fantasy that I was explicitly excluded from. um right So like if you know my partner was really in defeat and I was like, oh, like do you want some pictures of my feet?
[00:37:58] Mike: Like black guys or something.
[00:38:02] Keith: And she was like, no, not really.
[00:38:04] Mike: Yeah.
[00:38:05] Keith: um but But then my second thought was, but maybe that's crazy, like all flat-chested women have to tolerate their partner probably, you know, looking for more ah voluptuous women in some of their fantasies. So yeah, maybe it's normal for partners to have different fantasies. I don't know.
[00:38:26] Mike: There are men who prefer smaller-breasted women.
[00:38:31] Keith: Exclusively.
[00:38:33] Mike: for I'll say for me, it it depends. like In a porn setting, large breasts are compelling, but in like real life, I like more athletic women, and that typically doesn't correlate.
[00:38:46] Keith: Yeah, but the point is like your up porn viewing and fantasy habits are not to always fantasize exactly about your wife. There's some variance.
[00:39:00] Mike: No, I mean, like I like sometimes i I like to. Yeah, there's a why. Yeah, that's right. But I mean, that's fantasy life, right? I mean, it's cool to. Can I say something about foot fetish just really fast?
[00:39:09] Keith: Yes.
[00:39:10] Mike: um I fucking hate foot foot fetishists.
[00:39:13] Keith: I do too.
[00:39:14] Mike: They're they're up there with Kai Rizdahl. Like I want to say ah I haven't mentioned this on the podcast in a bit. I have my subreddit ah curated amateur porn on Reddit.
[00:39:20] Ally: Let's see.
[00:39:24] Mike: I want to toot my horn and mention that recently somebody posted on NSFW 411 and asked for the top kind of underrated subreddits and somebody else posted mine and they got a ton of upvotes.
[00:39:35] Keith: Wow.
[00:39:36] Mike: So highly recommended. I exclude all foot fetish porn. It is stupid. And these people, they need to like figure something out. Like foot feet are not sexual and they should cut it out.
[00:39:47] Keith: Well, and they're imposing it on me.
[00:39:47] Mike: That's it.
[00:39:49] Keith: Like there are a lot of porns.
[00:39:50] Mike: It's so annoying.
[00:39:51] Keith: I'll be like watching a porn. I'll be like, Oh yeah, this is good. And then suddenly the porn actor is like diddling her foot for some reason. I'm like, what?
[00:39:58] Mike: And yes, and it ruins it. if you If you're like, oh, this feels kind of amateur, she might be into it. As soon as she does something with her foot, you know it's pro.
[00:40:04] Keith: yeah
[00:40:05] Mike: It's like, come on, dude.
[00:40:05] Keith: I know, I know.
[00:40:06] Mike: This is, I mean, it's like, if it's an immediate tell that she's not, that this is not, she's not having fun.
[00:40:12] Keith: Yep.
[00:40:13] Mike: And she's not, I know they're never having fun.
[00:40:16] Keith: Yeah. ah why do you think Why do you think this guy's wife doesn't like his feet?
[00:40:18] Mike: So probably got stuff on them.
[00:40:23] Keith: Or no, wait, I guess it's, I guess it's, he doesn't like her feet.
[00:40:24] Ally: He doesn't like her feet.
[00:40:28] Ally: Maybe he wants yeah like smaller feet.
[00:40:28] Keith: so
[00:40:30] Ally: I mean, like not everybody's feet are like super attractive.
[00:40:32] Keith: What makes a good foot too? Like like what is a good female foot?
[00:40:35] Mike: Oh my God.
[00:40:35] Ally: I don't really know, but it seems like you know having a high arch maybe or a small foot.
[00:40:46] Mike: Probably dainty. Yeah. Probably dainty.
[00:40:48] Ally: um women
[00:40:48] Mike: Cause they look, it's yeah, they want like, yeah, what's idealized about women's bodies usually is when it looks kind of young and new bile. So it's probably that.
[00:40:56] Keith: Okay, I asked chat GPT for foot fetish person, what makes a good foot? And they immediately said this content may violate our usage policies. So, okay, Sam Altman is gonna come after me now.
[00:41:05] Mike: Of course.
[00:41:08] Keith: ah And then it says, you know, ideal can vary widely. Okay, so once it gets all the woke stuff out of the way. ah Number one, shape and proportion. ah Number two, smooth skin and grooming.
[00:41:19] Keith: So you know you want to have pedicured toenails or or often with polish.
[00:41:22] Mike: makes sense.
[00:41:25] Keith: Arch and sole high arches, good call, Allie, as they create definition and curvature. ah Smooth, clean soles, well-shaped toes, whether long or short.
[00:41:37] Keith: And fragrance or scent. Scent is sometimes significant, ranging from freshly washed to a more natural musk.
[00:41:44] Mike: Oh, come on. It's gross.
[00:41:47] Ally: Yeah.
[00:41:47] Keith: Okay, that is, that is horrible.
[00:41:49] Ally: Between those are like.
[00:41:49] Mike: I mean, feeder fine, you know.
[00:41:51] Ally: This guy's question, I mean, it's tough. like I think he is going to have to put up with his wife sending him pictures of her feet and pretend that he likes them, and then like explain that it's not like he wants to actually have sex with a foot, that it's just a masturbation thing, and then like he can look at whatever pictures he wants.
[00:42:05] Keith: Yeah.
[00:42:07] Ally: like Is it that big of a lift for him to just like receive the feet pics and be like, looks great? you know i mean like it's
[00:42:14] Mike: Right. Well, he's got, he's very serious.
[00:42:15] Keith: Yeah.
[00:42:16] Mike: He doesn't want to lie. He wants to be honest.
[00:42:18] Keith: That's right. He read Sam Harris's book on lying and even white lies are terrible.
[00:42:19] Mike: I don't want right.
[00:42:22] Ally: Yeah. He could just be like, those are our feet.
[00:42:23] Mike: One way that I've
[00:42:25] Ally: Looks like feet to me.
[00:42:30] Mike: Well, he's into feet though. One way I've intellectualized this, cause I've thought about it, the foot fetish thing is so irritating and I thought about it. There is a situation that all men get into where you're having sex in the missionary position with a woman and you kind of put her legs, you know, closer to her body.
[00:42:47] Mike: So you're kind of penetrating her more deeply.
[00:42:47] Keith: Yeah.
[00:42:49] Mike: You're dominating her more in in that situation. You can sort of get into a new position where you're holding her feet with your hands.
[00:42:54] Keith: Yeah, i hold I hold the ankle because I don't want to interact with the feet really.
[00:42:55] Mike: And so that, wait, why?
[00:43:03] Mike: come on really okay well in that situation I think it can be kind of sexual that you're like you're it's not importantly sexual but like if you if you hold what what you you like because you can hold her foot like
[00:43:05] Keith: Yeah.
[00:43:15] Ally: No, it's clearly better to hold the ankle. The the foot is like rotating in a joint. You want to hold the joint because if you hold the foot, it could go like you know any which way. like It's much better to hold the ankle.
[00:43:23] Keith: That's right, Allie.
[00:43:26] Mike: I think the foot and the ankle are well enough to attach that it's not going to let you, the main thing you're doing, to trying to do is to control where her leg is, right? You're trying to keep her legs spread.
[00:43:33] Keith: Yes.
[00:43:33] Ally: Yeah, but there's more degrees of freedom from the foot than there are from the ankle, which is like directly on the bone of the leg.
[00:43:37] Mike: Okay.
[00:43:39] Ally: like
[00:43:40] Keith: OK.
[00:43:41] Mike: Okay. But the foot is easier to grab, but anyway.
[00:43:42] Keith: Guys, we can't do this game.
[00:43:43] Ally: um
[00:43:44] Keith: We got yelled at for our 30-minute description of like, but but let's move on.
[00:43:46] Ally: and adam is
[00:43:46] Mike: okay like and was trying fair enough. All I was trying to say all he trying to say is this is a situation where feet can be attached to like deep, kind of aggressive penetration. That's all I'm saying. it's so like I could see it there. There's a connection, but most of it is a woman with a guy with a woman beating him off with her feet. and that's That just reminds me of that episode of the office where Dwight Schrute is trying to improve his petted dexterity and winds up spilling coffee on his crotch. It's just dumb.
[00:44:12] Keith: Chase, your office knowledge is encyclopedic.
[00:44:15] Mike: It is, and it's ah it's it's something that I have in common with Gen Z.
[00:44:15] Keith: um
[00:44:19] Keith: I think I was just going to say, you should have brought that up in your dream with the girls because the office is very popular with Gen Z.
[00:44:19] Ally: Right.
[00:44:27] Mike: I probably did.
[00:44:27] Keith: Also, when does Gen Alpha start?
[00:44:27] Mike: No, and yeah, it's true.
[00:44:30] Keith: like what's the What's the bottom of Gen Z?
[00:44:34] Mike: Probably the the bottom of Gen Z is ah in high school now.
[00:44:38] Keith: Okay. All right. This person says, none of my boyfriends will eat me out. What's wrong with me? I'm a 26-year-old female.
[00:44:44] Mike: Yeah.
[00:44:44] Keith: Ever since I was 18, I've had two boyfriends. I don't know what happened before she was 18. One was really long-term, the other is shorter. The first had eaten me out once in the beginning, and only years later told me he didn't like to do it because of how I smelled.
[00:44:58] Keith: Although I was already careful with my hygiene, I began being more so. All of the while I went to doctors. None found concerning smells. I broke up with his first boyfriend, got another.
[00:45:07] Ally: What?
[00:45:08] Keith: He went to eat me out and got soft. Hasn't slept with me again in over a month. Says it wasn't me. It was him. Parentheses. Yeah, right. Anyways, I'm awfully insecure now and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
[00:45:19] Keith: I always wash myself thoroughly before doing anything.
[00:45:19] Ally: like
[00:45:21] Keith: I check to see if I smell. Could it be that I do smell and just don't feel it anymore? Could it be the look somehow? Has anyone with a vulva here been through this kind of situation? um
[00:45:33] Mike: I mean, you can't, yeah, go ahead.
[00:45:34] Keith: yeah go ahead and you you
[00:45:35] Mike: You can't completely control the odor because, uh, you know, this could be an analogy might be a guy could wash his penis really careful, but during say oral sex, like some stuff's going to start coming out of your urethra.
[00:45:47] Mike: Right.
[00:45:47] Keith: who
[00:45:47] Mike: So like, let's say you're a heavy smoker and I think that impacts like the the flavor of various stuff. Like it's going to affect you. So most of what he's experiencing from her vulva is coming out of her vagina and potentially urethra.
[00:45:59] Mike: So like, these are like, she can't completely control that.
[00:46:03] Keith: Yeah, I mean, if you've been out and about, you can, you know, take some soap between the folds of the labia and, you know, do your, do your best.
[00:46:09] Mike: Sure.
[00:46:10] Keith: So, but yeah, most people do that. And so, uh, I don't know how much variance there is in vagina smell. Like I definitely perceive some women's vaginas as much, um,
[00:46:25] Keith: I was going to say better than others. And I'm not sure what's going on there. It might just be that you know our pheromones are more aligned. It might just be that I'm more you know attracted to some people than others.
[00:46:37] Keith: um but i But I don't know objectively if there's like a huge range in like pH balance or something.
[00:46:39] Mike: i have to I think might have comments on this because Ali does not like receiving oral sex and also doesn't like to exchange fluids with her vagina. So I'm thinking maybe there's a reason for that, Ali.
[00:46:55] Ally: Well, it could be like cleanliness. I mean, i I don't think the smell is bad in like a bacterial way. um I think the smell is just like off-putting because it's recognizably me.
[00:47:12] Mike: So you think you smell bad.
[00:47:13] Ally: I guess,
[00:47:17] Mike: You said off-putting.
[00:47:17] Ally: yeah.
[00:47:18] Mike: I didn't start it.
[00:47:18] Ally: I smell bad to me, um but I don't think I smell bad in a like way that would be off-putting to others.
[00:47:28] Mike: All right.
[00:47:30] Keith: Bye.
[00:47:30] Mike: But you don't like it. you don't like Because here's here's the thing about this, is that Ali doesn't like receiving oral sex, but she's confided more or less that it's this it's not the sensation so much, it's that it's the fluid exchange that's bothersome, right?
[00:47:44] Mike: And it could be the saliva going into your vagina, that actually, that bothers you fair enough. but it's but But I think the sense, like you like having your clitoris stroked and rubbed, right?
[00:47:53] Ally: Yeah, so I've definitely had men do it often in like the first sexual encounter, they'll just like do it kind of spontaneously.
[00:47:53] Mike: That's that's fun for you.
[00:47:59] Ally: And then I'll tell them later that I don't like it. And nana none of them has complained about the smell or taste or anything. So I don't think that's, you know, and then some of them have later followed up to say like, you know, and I would do it if you want me to, like, are you sure, you know, um
[00:48:14] Mike: what if What if you had somebody who was like, Ali, your vagina is fucking, it's amazing tasting. I want to get down there and just, I love it.
[00:48:20] Ally: No, that would be weird. i I don't want people to be too enthusiastic.
[00:48:23] Mike: Why?
[00:48:25] Ally: I mean, even somebody saying that about like my you know hands or something, that would be weird. Like even a non-sexual body part for somebody to be like too into it.
[00:48:32] Mike: because you don't because you don't believe them or because something else.
[00:48:33] Ally: I'm like, yes.
[00:48:36] Mike: like Okay, let's say that it was totally, let's say you did a lie detector test and they took it and it's like it's like the guy's like, true, the guy fucking loves your vaginal taste. Would that would you then want to do it?
[00:48:43] Ally: it's i No.
[00:48:46] Keith: Or what if you're on a holodeck? Because, Ellie, you have to concede that that the tongue has more ah possible degrees of freedom and feelings it could impart along the sides of your clit.
[00:48:53] Ally: Mm-hmm.
[00:48:59] Mike: It's softer.
[00:49:00] Ally: Hmm.
[00:49:05] Keith: And so, yeah, it's it's like, ah look, I can understand being
[00:49:14] Keith: shy or ashamed. um um I don't mean to put like words in your mouth here, but like, yeah, like what if you're on a holodeck? So this, this, this entity is going to vaporize shortly after he attempts to go down on you.
[00:49:22] Mike: Right.
[00:49:25] Keith: Would you be curious in that sense? Or, you know, you know, you know, it's a robot.
[00:49:28] Mike: and and And I want to underline this because keith Keith has a fair amount of moral authority on this because Keith does not historically like blowjobs, but has been working on that and enjoying it more.
[00:49:37] Ally: Yeah, he's been trying. yeah
[00:49:38] Keith: I have.
[00:49:39] Mike: So he's not like he, there's his own thing going on here. And I think the same thing could happen for you, Ali.
[00:49:42] Ally: Yeah.
[00:49:43] Mike: I think you could, you know, go somewhere with this, maybe just a holodeck.
[00:49:45] Ally: Yeah, right. so I mean, like, for for purposes of science or whatever, like, yes, I would use the holodeck to explore what is it about this act that I dislike. So right, that that would be OK.
[00:49:57] Ally: I mean, I think some of it is not liking being in a sort of dominant position during sex where it does seem subservient for the man to go down on me and I don't like having him in a subservient position.
[00:50:08] Mike: Hmm. Do you, when you get oral insects, when it rarely happens, are you face sitting?
[00:50:15] Ally: No, no, I'm like on my back and he's, you know, yeah.
[00:50:18] Mike: But you perceive that as dominant.
[00:50:22] Keith: by the woman.
[00:50:22] Mike: How about if, how about if he gave you oral sex while you were up on a cross crucified, would you view that as dominant?
[00:50:29] Ally: Maybe less so, yeah. and You were trying, yeah, I guess if you were trying to do it specifically to unnerve me, that might be interesting because I know that he's trying to do it to make me uncomfortable.
[00:50:31] Mike: It'd probably be hard to focus on it too.
[00:50:42] Ally: That could be kind of cool, but like, knowing that he wants to do it to please me, I don't really, yeah, I don't know.
[00:50:42] Keith: Oh.
[00:50:47] Mike: Interesting interesting
[00:50:48] Keith: What a paradox.
[00:50:50] Ally: Yeah.
[00:50:53] Mike: No, that, I mean, it makes some sense. I mean, he's not, yeah, right. He's not, what if, I haven't one other counterfactual here. What if it was a 69 and you're on your back and so he's thrusting into your mouth with his cock.
[00:51:04] Mike: That's pretty dominant. And then at the, or just maybe just holding it there. So he's sort of on top of you and like, you're supposed to be licking the frenulum and he's going to give you oral.
[00:51:10] Ally: Yeah, I would like that more.
[00:51:11] Mike: Then he's pretty much pretty dominant, right?
[00:51:13] Ally: um In that case, I feel like it would just make it a little bit harder to concentrate on what I'm doing.
[00:51:14] Mike: Okay.
[00:51:17] Mike: Yeah.
[00:51:18] Keith: Yeah.
[00:51:19] Mike: It's always something.
[00:51:19] Keith: that's that's Well, that is an issue with 69 is that it's just not, it's hard to walk and chew gum at the same time.
[00:51:22] Mike: It is, it is. Yes.
[00:51:28] Mike: I do think there's an important element though of like, in theory is the wrong word, but like concern about ah smell, odor. it's It's similar to this question, right? Like you're worried. There's some concern about bottling.
[00:51:40] Mike: But this, by the way, Ali, is something that guys, I think Keith could back me up on this. um There's like, when I was a teenager and was preparing for my first sexual encounter, men spent like 10, like at least a year kind of in a dojo thinking about this beating off a lot, like imagining it.
[00:51:58] Mike: And I concluded there were two things I was concerned about. One was like her seeing me orgasm, because I was like, that's out of control and as a guy, you're supposed to be kind of in control.
[00:52:05] Ally: interesting.
[00:52:07] Mike: And the second one was about like the fluids. And it was like this thing about like, I was like, okay, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna come in her mouth. And then like this whole like, what, you know, I don't know, there were possible negative reactions that I was sort of concerned with and how that would go, you know.
[00:52:21] Ally: Yeah. So if a guy were to finger me and then like lick his fingers afterwards or something, I would be fine with that. I would think it's a little weird of him to do, but that wouldn't like bother me and I wouldn't be worried about the taste of it.
[00:52:30] Mike: Mm hmm.
[00:52:36] Mike: Yeah, but you are worried about it because, for example, if a guy fucked you and then was like as part of his domination play was going to kind of crawl forward and stick his dick in your mouth, you wouldn't like that.
[00:52:42] Ally: No, because I don't like the taste of it, but like I'm not worried about it.
[00:52:49] Mike: But he's dominating you.
[00:52:50] Ally: I'm liking the taste of it.
[00:52:50] Mike: He's who cares if you like it. He's dominating you, right? He's like, I'm going to do this.
[00:52:53] Ally: I mean, right. Yeah, my enjoyment of the taste may not affect whether he does it or not, but I was still wouldn't like it.
[00:52:56] Mike: Yes. the You with the point is you. Right. You dislike it so much that it would make it not feel like domination. It would just be gross. in the same sense of if he made you lick his asshole.
[00:53:06] Ally: I think so.
[00:53:08] Mike: Yeah.
[00:53:08] Ally: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:53:09] Mike: Yeah.
[00:53:11] Ally: Yeah, ultimately for any domination is about being made to do stuff that I am like kind of interested in doing.
[00:53:11] Mike: It's too much.
[00:53:16] Ally: like I don't want somebody to dominate me and then be like, go clean my toilet.
[00:53:16] Mike: Right.
[00:53:18] Ally: and you know like
[00:53:19] Mike: Exactly. And this is, this is the concern I had as a teenager.
[00:53:22] Ally: Yeah.
[00:53:22] Mike: It's like, it's, it's very dominant to get, to get oral sex from your your girlfriend. It's like, this is so hot, but it's like, I don't want her to then, to then ejaculate in her mouth and never be like, ah
[00:53:33] Ally: yeah
[00:53:33] Mike: but you want, yeah, you're worried about that's it that. I mean, i that's a, um I don't think I've ever had a woman do that.
[00:53:37] Ally: No, I think that's a legitimate fear for you. I've noticed substantial differences in the taste and texture of semen from man to man.
[00:53:40] Mike: Yeah.
[00:53:45] Ally: As I've i think said before in the bot, I think one difference is whether a guy has had a vasectomy or not. I feel like I can tell the difference between ejaculate from somebody with a vasectomy versus not.
[00:53:55] Ally: But like there are there are substantial differences in what your diet is like, how off how long it's been since you masturbated.
[00:53:56] Mike: All right.
[00:54:01] Ally: like And then I think something that's just like inherent to each individual, and there's like a a taste component.
[00:54:07] Mike: Have you ever ah criticized a guy's flavor?
[00:54:12] Ally: Probably not like to his face, no.
[00:54:15] Mike: Interesting. Yeah. I mean, the most I had was I had a girlfriend who told me, who characterized it as getting to eat a mayonnaise sandwich.
[00:54:23] Ally: Ew.
[00:54:24] Mike: And I was like, I was like, huh, that's well, no, it was just a, I think it was an expression she'd picked up somewhere and she was trying to be a little funny.
[00:54:26] Ally: It's that thick for you?
[00:54:34] Mike: And I was like, it actually, yeah, it made me a lot less interested in that activity. Yeah. It was a negative experience for me. I was like, Oh, I don't think she was trying to say my flavor was bad.
[00:54:42] Keith: Huh.
[00:54:47] Mike: I think she was trying to say, yeah, like getting semen in your mouth sucks.
[00:54:52] Keith: Right.
[00:54:52] Mike: I think that was her point. And I was like, Oh, okay. Well, I guess I don't have to do that, but then it makes oral sex a lot less fun and more complicated.
[00:54:59] Keith: Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is it needs to be believable that she wants it.
[00:55:04] Mike: Yes.
[00:55:05] Keith: and And by saying things like like eating a banddai sandwich, sort of pulling the curtain back a little bit on the ruse.
[00:55:05] Mike: Yes.
[00:55:10] Mike: It was rough.
[00:55:12] Ally: yeah It shouldn't be that thick.
[00:55:15] Mike: It was I don't think that I don't think.
[00:55:16] Keith: Bill, you're you're focusing on that too much.
[00:55:18] Ally: I know.
[00:55:19] Keith: She was just... We all agree on that on that point.
[00:55:23] Ally: Maybe you were dead. yeah yeah
[00:55:26] Mike: Well, but just so you understand, so so yeah, when I masturbate and I ejaculate it, have you ever had like a mayonnaise packet at like, ah you know, and you squeeze the mayonnaise out? That's actually what it's like. Is that not normal?
[00:55:40] Mike: It's really gross.
[00:55:40] Keith: This level of fat level of thickness?
[00:55:42] Mike: I'm kidding.
[00:55:43] Keith: Okay.
[00:55:44] Mike: I'm gonna be so revolting.
[00:55:45] Keith: God.
[00:55:46] Ally: but
[00:55:48] Mike: Yes.
[00:55:48] Keith: It's like a sludge that...
[00:55:50] Mike: Yes.
[00:55:50] Keith: Oh, God.
[00:55:51] Mike: There's only, there's only two things you can ooze and one of them is semen.
[00:55:55] Keith: All right.
[00:55:56] Mike: Yeah.
[00:55:56] Keith: All right. We have a ah we have what time for one more. all right This person says, what stuff besides my fingers and toys should I use to pleasure my clit? I have been rubbing my clit since I was like six years old.
[00:56:08] Keith: No shaming, please. I tried fingering, but I feel no pleasure unlike what I feel while I rub my clit. I want to try new things on my clit like toys vibrators, but I can't buy stuffs like that since I have a very religious family, plus they can always get into my stuff.
[00:56:23] Keith: What possible alternatives can I use to pleasure my clit?
[00:56:23] Mike: Yeah.
[00:56:26] Keith: Sorry for my grammar.
[00:56:27] Mike: note that she Note that she considers fingering, ah sticking the finger inside, which is how I view it too.
[00:56:27] Keith: It's not this language.
[00:56:32] Mike: A lot of people consider fingering to be a word.
[00:56:32] Ally: Oh, okay.
[00:56:34] Mike: No, but there's like a genuine linguistic thing here. Like some people think rubbing the clit is quote unquote fingering. To me it's not, but I think that I accept that that's a normal usage.
[00:56:43] Ally: Yeah, okay, so she's looking for what she should use as a dildo that's not a dildo. Is that the idea?
[00:56:47] Mike: No, she wants to rush. She wants something to rub her clit with. That's more so she wants a vibrator. That's what's going on.
[00:56:53] Keith: Yeah.
[00:56:53] Ally: Oh.
[00:56:53] Mike: Tooth vibrating toothbrush is the common answer to this.
[00:56:56] Keith: Yeah, there were there were a number of suggestions here.
[00:56:56] Ally: Mm-hmm.
[00:56:58] Keith: So the number one one is showerhead. A lot of people say say that ah showerhead.
[00:57:01] Mike: Oh yeah.
[00:57:03] Mike: Or a bathtub faucet.
[00:57:04] Keith: I've always been a little bit confused about this. Maybe you can help Ali. So I guess it just applies steady, warm pressure. But
[00:57:13] Ally: I've tried that and I get nothing out of it, but I don't really get anything out of a vibrator either. I don't think that's a modality that works well for me.
[00:57:21] Keith: Huh.
[00:57:22] Mike: What's wrong with you?
[00:57:24] Mike: Are you sure about that?
[00:57:25] Keith: Yeah.
[00:57:25] Mike: I mean, how many vibrators have you tried?
[00:57:27] Keith: Yeah, you gotta try more, Ellie.
[00:57:27] Mike: like
[00:57:29] Keith: like What was the thing that you discovered recently?
[00:57:29] Mike: this isn't
[00:57:29] Ally: Yeah, I've tried one five. Oh, just like a different position to be fingered from, I guess.
[00:57:33] Mike: Ali, how many vibrators do you own?
[00:57:37] Keith: Oh, right.
[00:57:39] Ally: I don't own any.
[00:57:40] Keith: Zero.
[00:57:40] Ally: I got one. I won one as the prize from pub trivia, and I tried that one and didn't really get anything from it.
[00:57:47] Mike: for the love of God.
[00:57:48] Ally: And then
[00:57:49] Mike: why don't why do women Why are women so reluctant to explore their pleasure like this? I mean, sexual pleasure. like I mean, so there's there's a particular vibrator. I have to look it up. That's like the standard one.
[00:58:01] Mike: That's like the best one for women. I know it doesn't work with a battery. You have to plug it in so it has some power.
[00:58:06] Keith: Yeah, I think it's the Hitachi.
[00:58:08] Mike: Yeah, it could be.
[00:58:08] Ally: okay
[00:58:08] Mike: I mean, we should get you one of these. and like you know We could also have a ride of Sibian on the air. Recipients are expensive, they're like a thousand bucks, I don't know.
[00:58:16] Keith: we if If we got you this vibrator, would you commit to trying it two or three times for science?
[00:58:21] Mike: Yeah.
[00:58:21] Ally: Yeah, I don't think it would work. I'll try it. yeah
[00:58:25] Mike: Yeah, I'll get her one.
[00:58:25] Ally: I think the problem for me, you're saying, like, why don't I try more stuff?
[00:58:26] Mike: It's fine.
[00:58:27] Ally: It's because, like, I have a mode of masturbating that works for me and, like, feels great. I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. And then, like, if it's between, you know, that and then, like, sex with a partner, I feel like those are kind of the modalities of sex.
[00:58:39] Ally: I feel like if I made masturbation somehow even better, that would ultimately be bad for me because, like, I want to have partnered sex also. like
[00:58:49] Mike: I mean, but your partner, I mean, for example, with vibration, I mean, there they're there are ways to incorporate that into partnered sex. It's really common to do that, actually.
[00:58:55] Ally: That seems so emasculating, though.
[00:58:58] Mike: Why? I think it's awesome.
[00:58:59] Ally: like You're asking a guy to like use something that's not his dick on you to being like, I like this more than your dick.
[00:59:03] Keith: okay
[00:59:04] Mike: Ali, men men love using power tools, let me tell you.
[00:59:09] Keith: There is a place
[00:59:09] Ally: Yeah, that's how someone can answer for this poster. Maybe she should try like the bottom end of a reciprocating saw or something, like something that vibrates.
[00:59:16] Mike: No, no, toothbrush toothbrush, vibrating toothbrush is the right move here.
[00:59:18] Ally: Yeah.
[00:59:20] Mike: I mean, that, that like, because it's so innocuous.
[00:59:20] Ally: OK.
[00:59:22] Keith: Yeah, that's mentioned several times.
[00:59:24] Mike: Yeah. And it like, yeah.
[00:59:24] Keith: I think i think the vibration is not quite the what you, but I mean, look, yeah, beggars can't be choosers here.
[00:59:30] Mike: Yeah.
[00:59:33] Mike: Right.
[00:59:33] Keith: um
[00:59:35] Mike: I mean, there might be some, ah I could imagine using like a headphones. with the right something I'll put it on it with a very high volume and maybe it would do, it but I just think the toothbrush is the best call. There's probably other somewhat equivalent apparatuses.
[00:59:50] Keith: two To Ally's point, I dated somebody once who ah required a vibrator to get off.
[00:59:50] Ally: and
[00:59:59] Keith: And it there were times when I felt a little bit emasculated by it. like You try not to take it personally, but every sexual encounter needed a vibrator.
[01:00:12] Keith: I remember we we traveled somewhere and she forgot her vibrator. And yeah, she had this like, it was like a big panic. And to be fair, I would be kind of annoyed if I traveled somewhere and you told me, oh, well, you're not going to be able to have orgasms now, which basically not having the vibrator meant for her.
[01:00:30] Keith: But yes.
[01:00:31] Mike: A lot of women require, that it is common for women to require a vibrator too to orgasm. So it's like, what do you want? I mean, that's just like, women's anatomy is not optimized for orgasms because the female orgasm is, what's the word?
[01:00:38] Ally: ah okay
[01:00:42] Ally: um
[01:00:43] Keith: The Stijl.
[01:00:44] Ally: I would say those women should like explore their fingering technique more because I feel like that's going to be the easiest.
[01:00:44] Mike: Vestigial, thank you, Keith. That is exactly the right word. It's like the appendix.
[01:00:51] Mike: They do.
[01:00:52] Ally: yeah
[01:00:53] Mike: I mean, they're just women who find that it's, it just doesn't give them the power and the prestige.
[01:00:53] Ally: and
[01:00:59] Mike: Yeah.
[01:00:59] Ally: of
[01:01:00] Mike: So ah we're almost out of time here, Keith. There's a bookkeeping question. So when we, uh, our normal time for recording this podcast is on Tuesdays, it's released on Thursdays.
[01:01:03] Keith: Uh-huh.
[01:01:09] Mike: That does mean that next week it will be during the election.
[01:01:13] Keith: Oh, yeah.
[01:01:14] Mike: Do we want to do anything special for that, uh, or not?
[01:01:19] Keith: What, what are we going to like live broadcast the election results?
[01:01:23] Ally: if
[01:01:23] Mike: No, we don't want to, we don't know they want to do that because no,
[01:01:24] Keith: Your mileage may vary for this cutting edge punter tree.
[01:01:28] Mike: knowing, and knowing our audience, no one will show up because they're too ashamed.
[01:01:28] Ally: yeah
[01:01:31] Mike: We have a very odd audience that doesn't, but, but we could release an episode. Maybe we just do the normal schedule. That's fine.
[01:01:39] Keith: Yeah.
[01:01:39] Mike: Uh, yeah.
[01:01:39] Ally: Yeah, it's not, I mean, we're not recording at the time when the election would be decided. So it's not like we're gonna...
[01:01:43] Mike: Hmm.
[01:01:44] Keith: The election is not likely to be decided even by Thursday.
[01:01:44] Mike: That's true.
[01:01:46] Ally: Hmm.
[01:01:48] Mike: Interesting point. Okay. There you go.
[01:01:49] Keith: this you know there's that it's going to be The margin I think will be slim enough that they're still counting. um That's what happened last time.
[01:01:58] Mike: Fair point, and all the legal challenges.
[01:02:00] Keith: Right, right, right, right. um All right, that'll do it for this episode of Your Mileage May Very. You can send us feedback or questions to ymmvpod at gmail dot.com. That's ymmvpod at gmail dot.com. We pay $10 for all feedback. So if you want Venmo or whatever, just let us know. Thanks for listening and we will catch you next week on Your Mileage May Very.

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Episode 185: Election Anxiety, Foot Fetish Faux Pas, California Taxes, Vibrator Confessions

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