Your Mileage May Vary: Listener Critiques, Public Bathroom Confessions, Trans Locker Room Debate, OnlyFans Millions

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[00:00:00] Keith: Hello, and welcome to Your Mileage May Vary. We talk about sex and relationships with frankness that is often controversial, but mostly in good faith. I'm Keith, I'm here with Mike. Hello, Mike.
[00:00:09] Mike: Hi Keith.
[00:00:10] Keith: Also joining us today is Ali. Don't laugh, Ali.
[00:00:14] Ally: hiki Hikey.
[00:00:15] Keith: I can tell you almost laughed. Yeah, there it is.
[00:00:19] Ally: I'm going to laugh all the time because I enjoy my life going.
[00:00:19] Keith: so
[00:00:21] Mike: Whoa.
[00:00:22] Keith: we received an angry email from a listener this week who, I don't i don't know, is is hate the wrong word or what word would you guys use? I wouldn't say he he dislikes Ali.
[00:00:36] Mike: I think he might be a gay man who doesn't like women.
[00:00:40] Keith: Yeah, it did feel like this could all be a misogynistic rant, although, yeah, I'm not sure.
[00:00:47] Mike: No, and well, okay.
[00:00:48] Keith: All right, well, i think I think we need to litigate some of the complaints here.
[00:00:48] Mike: Yeah.
[00:00:51] Keith: Are you guys ready?
[00:00:52] Mike: Yes.
[00:00:52] Ally: so it
[00:00:53] Keith: Okay. No, it it sounds like you're on the verge of laughing, Allie. All right. Uh, guys, the episode posted on November 22nd was one of the better that you've done lately. Reason. Allie, not sure how she spells her name, doesn't add value to the podcast.
[00:01:06] Keith: There was a time, maybe, anyway, he talks about and how you were, you were okay in the past. He he uses the expression barely tolerable.
[00:01:12] Ally: Oh, I don't remember that.
[00:01:15] Keith: I listened, but look forward.
[00:01:15] Ally: He thinks I've gotten worse since. Okay.
[00:01:18] Keith: or Or maybe there's been too much exposure. I'm sure she's a wonderful, intelligent, and successful woman. if These things are true. and That's a good read on his part. The kind I'd love to meet in real life. However, with a microphone in front of her, she sounds incredibly juvenile, like talking to a high schooler.
[00:01:33] Keith: She can improve by focusing on saying smooth, uninterrupted, declarative sentences.
[00:01:33] Mike: That's true.
[00:01:39] Keith: Noun, verb, punctuation. Is she getting this, Allie? Maybe she takes some notes. If you check the archives and review previous episodes, she often just answers, yeah, yeah, no. It pauses awkwardly mid-sentence and then continues her thought. Sometimes she'll even add an unnecessary giggle in between and she feels uncomfortable with the topic or sharing details about herself, again further disrupting the flow of the conversation.
[00:02:02] Mike: Hmm.
[00:02:02] Keith: Oh, brutal. ah Those recent past summer episodes where it was just Ali and Mike were pretty rough. Her speech pattern and upward rising inflection and every answer are irritating.
[00:02:11] Mike: Oof.
[00:02:11] Keith: And the pauses she makes mid-sentence probably had 20% of wasted dead space to each episode.
[00:02:14] Mike: Oh my God.
[00:02:17] Keith: And then he really wraps it up nicely though. So um and we're not we're not just entirely bullying her. Allie needs some practice exclamation point. She can do better with a little bit of work and definitely isn't the last cause. If you want her perspective until she practices proper inflection and not sheepishly giggling at every remark, then go back to inviting her on sparingly, but don't make it a regular habit. Thanks.
[00:02:39] Keith: loyal listener. Now, I do feel like this is all, I mean, he didn't mention me by name, but what's implied here is that I'm the best, and he he wants more of me.
[00:02:48] Mike: Wait, why does that and why does it imply that?
[00:02:49] Ally: Oh, because he mentioned that the episodes with you and I were particularly rough.
[00:02:53] Keith: Yeah, we're, that's right.
[00:02:53] Ally: So he's leaving out mentioning Keith at all.
[00:02:56] Keith: Yeah, the implication is that I'm really the straw that stirs the drink, but setting that aside, ah
[00:03:03] Ally: My response to this is that i I do laugh a lot. I think that's part of my personality. And it's too bad that he doesn't find these topics funny. I don't know if I pause more than anyone else who's formulating thoughts on the fly, but I don't do the upspeak thing.
[00:03:20] Ally: And he could do an audio analysis of it. There are certainly people who do, like Alison Roman, like the celebrity chef does that.
[00:03:29] Keith: Mmhmm.
[00:03:29] Ally: And I just don't. I think he's just wrong about that.
[00:03:32] Mike: Okay. Uh, so I took the transcript from two episodes ago, which I think is the one that triggered this.
[00:03:36] Ally: Okay.
[00:03:37] Mike: Well, actually it didn't, the he said this email after the last episode, I pasted the transcript to chat GP and TNI said after like haranguing it a little bit cause it wrangling it.
[00:03:48] Mike: Cause it wanted to, uh, go on tangents. I said, please just give a ranking of who a normal person would say gives the most middle and least value to the podcast.
[00:03:55] Keith: no and there's no way you would read this unless it says what you want okay okay yeah this is amazing getting a little bit hard right now
[00:03:56] Mike: It said, what?
[00:04:00] Mike: Not at all. and Not at all. I'm being honest. I can share my screen if I need to. Okay. It says Keith adds the most value. Keith drives the kind of drives the conversation, keeps the flow consistent and provides structure. His balance of humor, insight, and steering the discussion makes him indispensable. It then says aie all Ali adds middle value. Ali adds middle value. She offers a contrasting perspective, adds depth, particularly with discussing topics in a more introspective and counter-cultural lens. Her intellectual input and personal anecdotes add a layer of relatability and challenge to the dynamic.
[00:04:31] Keith: Hmm.
[00:04:31] Mike: Mike adds the least value. um my While Mike contributes humor and occasionally interesting tangents, his approach can come across as overly argumentative or self-centered, which may detract from the show's overall coherence for some listeners.
[00:04:43] Keith: Wow.
[00:04:44] Mike: What do you think about that?
[00:04:45] Keith: I mean, i feel I think the LLMs are taking over the word world.
[00:04:46] Ally: I mean, chat GPT hallucinates a lot, so I wouldn't put too much credence in that.
[00:04:49] Mike: Okay.
[00:04:52] Keith: They're right about everything.
[00:04:54] Mike: Yeah, they made they may.
[00:04:55] Keith: um
[00:04:56] Mike: So, they it and I could paste another one, but I so somewhat suspect it'll it'll offer a similar opinion.
[00:05:01] Ally: Yeah.
[00:05:02] Mike: So, i
[00:05:02] Ally: Also, Mike edits these episodes, so if there are too many pauses, really, you should blame him for not cutting out dead air.
[00:05:09] Mike: true.
[00:05:10] Keith: m Yeah, but I don't think there is dead air. Okay, jokes aside, I do think that you're too malleable sometimes. I want you to argue with us more, but but that's not...
[00:05:22] Ally: Oh, okay.
[00:05:24] Keith: I mean, that's that's sort of orthogonal to anything he said, which sounds like...
[00:05:28] Mike: Yeah, and stop up talking.
[00:05:32] Keith: What is up-talking? Can someone like impersonate an up-talker?
[00:05:36] Mike: Sure. um So I have this project to show you guys, and I use some electronics kits, and I think it's really cool.
[00:05:40] Keith: Oh, I see.
[00:05:43] Keith: Okay.
[00:05:45] Ally: Listen to an interview with Alison Roman.
[00:05:45] Keith: Yeah, okay. Yeah, that sounds terrible.
[00:05:48] Mike: Yeah, yes.
[00:05:50] Keith: What the second time?
[00:05:50] Ally: She does it a lot.
[00:05:51] Keith: That's Alison Roman.
[00:05:52] Ally: And I don't dislike her, but I noticed when listening to a recent interview with her about Thanksgiving food that she was doing it.
[00:06:00] Mike: It's really common.
[00:06:00] Keith: Okay.
[00:06:00] Mike: I mean, just listen to NPR for five to 10 minutes and you'll hear it.
[00:06:04] Keith: um ah I listened to my favorite show by Kai Risdall.
[00:06:07] Mike: Oh my God.
[00:06:08] Ally: Right. Oh, God. The crossover episode with Kai Risdell is going to be amazing.
[00:06:11] Mike: Oh my God. Oh my God.
[00:06:14] Keith: ah yeah So I don't think this guy is lying about his experience. like I think it's interesting when people have such like articulate but incoherent thoughts about something.
[00:06:20] Mike: Agreed.
[00:06:30] Keith: And I think this is an example of that.
[00:06:32] Mike: That wasn't everything though, he says more, right?
[00:06:34] Keith: ah He said, thanks.
[00:06:36] Ally: Is there more you didn't send me? Because I was saying, I don't know why he doesn't bring up substantive points about the topics that we talk about. Does he disagree with our positions on the actual issues, or is it all about how we talk?
[00:06:48] Keith: No, that was it. That's all he said.
[00:06:50] Mike: i think he I think he's gay and wants to beat off to men's voices. And I say this because I've recently been listening just out of curiosity, partly to female-led sex podcasts. And I do think on this particular axis, they are more compelling. and the On the axis of it's compelling to have two women, ah like I was listening to one recently that was about two women talking about giving blow jobs to guys while the guy's sitting on a couch. And it was sort of arousing to have these women like talk about how much they enjoyed feeling subservient to the guy and put his dick in their mouth and like rubbing his thighs and, you know, kind of watching his expressions and all this kind of, yeah, I mean, I was like, this is pretty arousing.
[00:07:30] Mike: So, I mean, yeah, I can see how, I think we have a moderate sized gay listenership.
[00:07:35] Keith: I feel like 0% of the reason I listen to podcasts is for arousal, ah but I don't really listen to that many sex podcasts, but that's because I think they're bad, not because I'm not finding the arousal I seek.
[00:07:35] Mike: um Yeah.
[00:07:41] Mike: Yeah.
[00:07:49] Mike: Yes. Yes.
[00:07:50] Keith: it Okay, what is the average, ah like what percentage of the population is gay or like the pre 2020?
[00:07:54] Mike: That
[00:07:57] Keith: um
[00:07:57] Mike: was like five,
[00:07:57] Ally: 10%?
[00:07:59] Keith: Okay, let's say it's 10% just for the stipulate that for the next question I'm gonna ask, which is, if there's a 10% chance that an arbitrary man is gay, what percent chance do you think there is that this person is gay? Okay.
[00:08:14] Keith: Yeah. Yeah. I would say like 15. Like I agree that there are some things here that imply that he, that he might, as a Bayesian, I would bump it a little bit, but yeah. Nine Xing the chance seems a bit, a bit strong.
[00:08:26] Mike: Well, his reply is a little, his comment is a little bitchy. So, at least you gotta go up to 20. Hmm.
[00:08:34] Keith: Okay. um All right. Well, hopefully he'll write us again and, you know, let us know if Ali's doing any better on this episode.
[00:08:41] Mike: Yes.
[00:08:42] Ally: We could add a segment at the end where we switch off and one of us reads erotica for a couple minutes if you think that people are listening to it only to beat off.
[00:08:50] Mike: they're They're not.
[00:08:50] Keith: Oh, God.
[00:08:51] Ally: Okay.
[00:08:52] Mike: um No, it's it's not.
[00:08:52] Keith: Maybe we should. We could do that for the outro.
[00:08:54] Mike: like Oh God. Yeah.
[00:08:58] Keith: It's your week again, Mike.
[00:08:58] Mike: I did that once before.
[00:09:01] Ally: Yeah.
[00:09:01] Mike: Yeah.
[00:09:04] Keith: Yeah, I don't think I could read erotica in a way. I think both of you two would be better at reading it in a provocative way, an evocative way.
[00:09:11] Mike: Hmm.
[00:09:13] Keith: I think I would be too embarrassed or too, I don't know. It would be hard for me to maintain face.
[00:09:20] Ally: We could find like basketball erotica for you to read.
[00:09:23] Mike: That's a good point, actually.
[00:09:26] Keith: ah I am not interested in basketball, Veronica. I do like basketball, and I do like having sex, but those have like a, ah the two VEN circles for each of those are not, there isn't any overlap for me.
[00:09:42] Mike: I think, I am a little interested in basketball erotica just because it's interesting to me how far the men's heads are away from their cocks.
[00:09:52] Mike: And so I think that changes. It just, yeah, I mean, their cock is so far away from their head that it's almost like it's a different person.
[00:09:56] Ally: Okay.
[00:09:59] Keith: Yeah, but I don't think that the descriptions of what's going on in erotica are anatomical enough for you to get the information you're looking for here.
[00:10:00] Ally: Oh, do you think
[00:10:07] Mike: There's, okay, you don't think, okay. I was imagining that, yeah.
[00:10:11] Ally: Do you think it's easier for a really tall person to autofillate or harder?
[00:10:11] Keith: like
[00:10:16] Mike: I had probably the same or harder. It's not autofalation I'm looking for.
[00:10:18] Keith: They're less flexible on average.
[00:10:20] Ally: Okay.
[00:10:20] Mike: Yeah, it's not that it's that it's just that like the, the distances are just further. So like, I kind of like, I guess it almost is creating a glory hole type atmosphere where the the woman's so far away from his face that it's almost like she's not there.
[00:10:32] Keith: Like what's going i on up there? She could write, you know, I started going down on him and down and down and down and down.
[00:10:34] Ally: yeah
[00:10:34] Mike: Yeah.
[00:10:38] Mike: Right. Right. Right.
[00:10:40] Keith: And then 10 minutes later I reached his, you know, rigid cock.
[00:10:40] Mike: Yeah.
[00:10:45] Mike: Right.
[00:10:46] Keith: All right. Let's move on to trans issues, which, um, yeah, we are now going to do, how did this come up? We were, we were talking about this before we started recording. What was the precursor?
[00:10:56] Ally: i I had this question of why from a libertarian standpoint, do you want the government involved in determining who and let's just say of adults, but like what, you know, gender adults are or what sexuality adults are, I don't feel like the government has a role to play here.
[00:10:59] Keith: All right.
[00:11:11] Keith: I don't think the government is trying to say those things. I think there's like a ah real matter of practicality where this sort of comes up most often and that's with restrooms. And I think it's obvious to me anyway, like the the default thing would be the people with penises go into one and the people without go into another.
[00:11:33] Keith: and the trans right folks are trying to sort of rewrite that role. And I think rewriting that is actually bad for women. And it's not because I'm a transphobe, it's because I think that even penis having female identifying people are probably more of a threat to women than women are. And so this thing where like they're trying to rewrite the rules in that way, I think is actually worse for women.
[00:12:02] Keith: And that's the thing that I don't think the government should try to do.
[00:12:07] Mike: Hallie, is there any situation in your life, and for you this might be no, but is there any situation for your in your life that's made worse in your imagination if in that situation there's a man within three feet of you beating off?
[00:12:21] Ally: Yes, for almost every situation.
[00:12:25] Mike: Oh, okay. ah Okay, so you don't want,
[00:12:27] Ally: I mean, beating off is the key qualifier there. it Just if there's a man within three feet of me, that's, you know, maybe fewer situations, but beating off almost every situation is made worse by that.
[00:12:36] Keith: I think penis having people beat off ah some order of magnitude more than non-penis having people.
[00:12:41] Ally: How often often do you beat off in a public restroom, though?
[00:12:43] Keith: I mean, I don't very often, but ah people people of...
[00:12:46] Mike: But you have. But you have, right?
[00:12:48] Keith: yeah i Honestly, I think very often is the right word there. It has happened some non-zero number of times.
[00:12:54] Mike: Have you ever masturbated in a public restroom, Allie?
[00:12:58] Ally: I think maybe once.
[00:12:59] Mike: Really? What? Can you give us some more detail?
[00:13:02] Keith: Yeah, I'm interested in that.
[00:13:02] Mike: Was there another person there with you?
[00:13:03] Ally: No. There was no other person there.
[00:13:05] Mike: Why, why did you need to do this?
[00:13:07] Ally: I don't know. I was horny.
[00:13:09] Keith: Was it after having lunch with me?
[00:13:11] Ally: No. This was like during grad school, I think.
[00:13:12] Mike: Where?
[00:13:12] Keith: No, not for that.
[00:13:14] Ally: I was probably in the public restroom in the basement of the engineering building.
[00:13:14] Keith: OK.
[00:13:20] Mike: Sort of sad.
[00:13:21] Keith: Yeah, that is, yeah.
[00:13:21] Ally: I know. Yeah.
[00:13:23] Keith: ah my but My public bathroom, yeah, my public bathroom masturbation stories are like likewise sad, and I think mostly in college.
[00:13:23] Ally: And we couldn't really visit the restroom.
[00:13:31] Mike: Would you, Keith, you would use, would you do it with, in the the toilet or the urinal?
[00:13:37] Keith: ah Definitely. ah tot Yeah, I prefer the ah privacy that the stall provides.
[00:13:37] Ally: Oh, the urinal is fairly public, right? Yeah.
[00:13:43] Mike: Okay. Okay. So yeah, but I, well, I mean, I always think the better, the more evocative moment is not the bathroom, it's the locker room. And the reason why is the obvious one that you're disrobing ah completely, typically. There's showers, maybe a spa, sauna kind of deal. And I think that's a situation where having a masturbating man within three feet of you would be particularly troubling. Isn't that right, Ali?
[00:14:12] Mike: So you want some authority, you don't don't you want some authority to of to prevent, or it doesn't have to be a mastery man, I'll give you two choices. A masturbating man or a man with a camera, video camera.
[00:14:23] Ally: Oh, the camera's much worse.
[00:14:25] Mike: Those two, okay, so those two things you want some authority to make illegal or against the rules, right?
[00:14:32] Keith: or have not happened very often.
[00:14:34] Ally: I want them to not happen very often.
[00:14:37] Mike: Okay, but men, we can agree,
[00:14:38] Ally: I want, maybe maybe I want a blanket rule that there are no cameras and no masturbating in the restroom, regardless of who's doing it.
[00:14:46] Mike: Okay, okay. ah So you would also, would you be equally bothered by a woman masturbating within three feet of you in the locker room as by a man?
[00:14:53] Ally: Yes, possibly even more so.
[00:14:56] Mike: You sure about that?
[00:14:56] Ally: That would be bizarre.
[00:14:58] Keith: It would be so unusual.
[00:14:58] Mike: ah you So but hang on, hang on, Ali. So if you had to, if you had to pick, you would pick a a man masturbating over a woman masturbating within three feet of you in the locker room.
[00:15:01] Ally: It would be so weird, yeah.
[00:15:08] Mike: I don't actually believe you. I would pick a woman masturbating in all cases above the man masturbating within three feet of me. And I'll tell you why, because the man has this thing that he can stick in my body and it's sort of problematic.
[00:15:20] Keith: Yeah, it's more of a threat.
[00:15:22] Mike: Yeah. Like he he can, he can do this thing to me. And I have been in a shower at 24 hour fitness, California street, San Francisco, where a man probably gay was in the shower stall across from me with a very large, direct penis pointed at me.
[00:15:35] Mike: And it wasn't great.
[00:15:36] Keith: I've been in showers and gyms many different times where there have been men doing stuff I wish they were.
[00:15:42] Mike: Well, you're more attractive to gay men than I am probably.
[00:15:44] Keith: yeah but well Yeah, so anyway, this is going off the rails a little bit here. but
[00:15:49] Mike: It isn't because Bally is now acknowledge she, I think she's ready to acknowledge that the man is worse.
[00:15:53] Keith: Ah, OK.
[00:15:55] Mike: The man is worse, right?
[00:15:55] Ally: Maybe the solution, I mean, I'm sorry this happened to to both of you.
[00:15:56] Keith: Allie.
[00:15:59] Ally: Maybe the solution is to have single occupancy restrooms. ah I'm not sure that having you guys be victimized by erections is better than having.
[00:16:11] Keith: Men can handle it and, you know, this does come up like, you know, they talked about like putting in trans restrooms on like every aircraft carrier and every ship in the Navy's fleet.
[00:16:20] Ally: That would just be confusing because then that would be essentially i mean there there are trends both ways right so
[00:16:26] Keith: The only reason I bring this up is because your initial question was like, why is the government imposing gender restrictions?
[00:16:28] Mike: Hm.
[00:16:33] Keith: And I don't think that's what they're doing. I think there's a normal thing. They're separating the penis havers from the non-penis havers. And then there's all of these like various referendums that pro-trans people advocate for.
[00:16:44] Keith: And it's not that I'm anti-trans. Saying that penis havers are more of a threat, I don't think makes me anti-trans, although I think some people in the trans community would argue that.
[00:16:48] Ally: I mean, there are trends both ways, right?
[00:16:54] Keith: But like yeah, it's like, what percentage of people rape women? And like it's going to be almost all penis havers. like Sure, it's happened that other people haven't.
[00:17:01] Ally: Yeah.
[00:17:03] Keith: But like saying that penis havers and non-penis havers are identical in the threat that they project is insane. And most people can detect that. And being told that there is no difference is the problem here.
[00:17:15] Keith: like When you say things that like obviously aren't true, and like anyone with like you know two neurons can figure out, that's the thing that like like really makes people on the right like glom onto this.
[00:17:26] Keith: because Yeah, the trans issue doesn't affect that many people. It's not that big of a deal, fine. But it's such a emblematic thing of the of the bigger issue here, which is when you say something about something that like has a pretty obvious, easy solution, and you start saying all these things that are like obviously demonstrably false, may its it calls into question all of your epistemology and all of the things that you're...
[00:17:49] Ally: So penis havers rape other penis havers at a much higher rate than otherwise. Also, this isn't a problem that is solved by somehow segregating all the penis havers together.
[00:17:55] Keith: Sure.
[00:17:59] Keith: ah penis heifers can defend themselves better.
[00:17:59] Ally: And no one is checking anything at the door of a restroom. It's all enforced by the, I guess, inhabitants of the restroom.
[00:18:09] Keith: Culture. Right.
[00:18:13] Mike: Yeah, the the the issue, Allie, I think is this.
[00:18:13] Ally: And so
[00:18:16] Mike: You you were sort of ah you were sort of advocating advocating earlier for rules that apply to everybody. So no masturbating or separate stalls for everybody.
[00:18:24] Ally: Yeah, that would be great, yeah.
[00:18:26] Mike: So you could imagine just having individual restrooms instead of having these restrooms with like ah stalls. And that's, I mean, like in Europe, it's ah the doors for the toilets and restrooms go all the way to the floor.
[00:18:36] Mike: And it's always shocking to Europeans to come to the US s because they don't go to the floor. so people can in principle look over or and under. Now, of course, i view the you know that can be viewed as a positive you're if you're a glory hole aficionado. But anyway, um the problem is that actually, so men will generally agree with you on this, Allie, in that men like women don't want men to be able to sort of have video cameras masturbating near women. The place where there's a disagreement is You don't want that to be possible for anyone, but what men really want is for it to be impossible for everyone except themselves. So what I want is for everybody else to be excluded from the women's locker room except me.
[00:19:19] Mike: I want to have a special card that lets me go into the women's locker room or restroom just myself and then do whatever I want in there. And the thing about it is the way the trans thing is currently constructed, that's literally the situation that's been created, is everybody has to act normally except this one little category of men who get to get this card and get to do the thing that all men actually want to do secretly or maybe not so secretly, I'm admitting it.
[00:19:45] Mike: And that's like deeply problematic. you can't have ah You can't have the situation where one little group of people i get this special privilege that in fact all men want. Does that make sense?
[00:19:58] Ally: I mean, it does, but I don't think that this card exists in the sense that you yourself right now could go into a woman's restroom. The only thing that's stopping you is that I guess women would yell at you or that you would get afraid.
[00:20:13] Mike: Men don't want to go in the restroom.
[00:20:14] Ally: I don't know.
[00:20:14] Mike: they They want to go in the locker room because then you get to see the the boobies and the ass and the the pubic hair trimming and all that kind of stuff. Right. So it's the little locker room that's the key here.
[00:20:25] Mike: And, um, what did I do wrong?
[00:20:25] Keith: That there sound nice, Mike, by the way. and No, I said that does sound nice. I can confirm those are the things I would like to see.
[00:20:30] Mike: Yeah. and Yeah, and there sure. and there's some yeah and There effectively is such a card. ah You're saying that I could go in there anyway, but that's not really true because there's a an authority. I would actually be arrested.
[00:20:41] Mike: right That's actually what would happen.
[00:20:41] Keith: Yeah, security would come or be called.
[00:20:43] Mike: Yes. Yes. I would get trespassed out of the place and and there probably actually are laws on this. right i'm not That I'm not so sure about, but they're probably laws that say like and on state property or whatever, and then like for a private establishment, I'm not sure they would
[00:20:56] Ally: I guess that's what I would disagree with. I would say that anyone who is causing a disturbance or doing these behaviors that we want to disallow in the restroom should be thrown out or arrested or whatever.
[00:21:07] Ally: But in so far, we are not doing a TSA style body scan just in order to let you into the restroom.
[00:21:09] Mike: yeah but
[00:21:15] Ally: Anybody can go into the restroom. The barrier to being in the restroom is behaving normally. And if you were to go into the women's restroom and behave completely normally and go into the stall and poop and leave,
[00:21:26] Ally: That doesn't bother me at all.
[00:21:29] Mike: Yeah, it's the locker room, again, that's the problem, but it's but the fact that I look stereotypically male, I promise you, even if I put on like ah my wife's dress, which wouldn't fit anyway, but if I put it on and went into the women's locker room, it wouldn't there would be a ruckus.
[00:21:29] Keith: i
[00:21:43] Keith: Yeah, I reject the premise of what you're saying, Ali, which is that I can just go into a women's locker room and do whatever I want right now.
[00:21:49] Mike: I did, by the way, go into a women's restroom recently. It was at a baseball game in Cincinnati and I didn't understand the layout of the Cincinnati Reds. I mean, Cincinnati is a very intellectually advanced area and so the way that their stadium is set up is quite complicated and so I was unable to immediately decipher it and I did actually accidentally walk into the women's room and Uh, they were very good natured about it and I just walked back out. So like I did have that experience and it wasn't, there was actually no screaming, but that was a restroom. I think a locker room with lots of naked parts showing it would have been quite different. I think there would have been screaming and stuff.
[00:22:26] Keith: Yeah, that's right.
[00:22:28] Ally: And should this be a law or should it be up to the individual business to decide what they want the rule to be?
[00:22:39] Keith: ah Are you asking that because of this thing on kind Congressional Hill, the bathroom thing there?
[00:22:48] Ally: No, just, I mean, I've also gone into the men's restroom when there was no line there and there was a huge line in the women's restroom.
[00:22:55] Keith: Yeah, that happens quite often.
[00:22:56] Ally: and um
[00:22:57] Mike: So, I mean, Ali, how would you feel?
[00:22:58] Ally: Generally, there was nobody in the men's restroom and nobody complained because nobody was in there. um But I didn't feel like I was breaking the law. And had I been arrested and charged with a felony or something, I would be upset because I don't feel like it.
[00:23:09] Keith: i don't think you're i don't think okay I don't think you're being ah and ingenuous here. but like ah ah For starters, women use the men's room all the time. Men are faster because they don't need to sit to do the thing that you do 80% of the time in a public restroom. And so yeah, this thing where like women ah occasionally go into the men's room is something that men are pretty used to.
[00:23:35] Keith: Inverting that when men like sometimes use the women's room, I've done that a few times in a situation where the women's room is empty. And i mean it's it's just the case that like so I often get dirty looks on my way out in a way that I just don't think women do.
[00:23:52] Mike: Hm.
[00:23:53] Keith: like There is an asymmetry there already. And I think it's because that's the way it kind of should be. um like Like I agree, like in practice, like an empty restroom, who cares? Everyone should be able to go in there. Yes. But the problem is men being in a women's space is dangerous in a way. Sorry, I want to be careful here because people oftentimes will use like not using the language properly as a way, as a reason to accuse. So forget men and women. Penis havers being in a non-penis having space projects a threat that isn't projected in the opposite. Right. So.
[00:24:29] Keith: a non-penis haver entering a space that is set aside for penis havers is just not as much of a threat. And I think that is obvious to anyone who thinks about it. And whether we should be enlightened to a point where that doesn't matter anymore and there is no crime and you know there's no sexual deviance out there, yeah, but I wish the the world was like that, but I don't think that it is. And I think most people don't think that it is. And so all of this stuff that is trying to create this weird,
[00:24:58] Keith: this thing that feels weird to most people, I think should be admitted and acknowledged. And I don't know what to do about the like, you know, point, whatever percent of people who are trans, although now it's like 2% because there's a social contagion, but setting that aside, the like small fraction of people who are trans, I don't know how to most most make them feel comfortable in a way that doesn't project a threat to, you know, 50% of the population.
[00:25:22] Keith: I agree.
[00:25:22] Mike: I do.
[00:25:22] Keith: It should. Okay, fine. But let me just finish here.
[00:25:24] Mike: Good.
[00:25:25] Keith: I'm almost done. Yeah, it's fine to talk about it and discuss it, but to act as if like everyone's the same and there's no difference in threat and there's no like difference between men and women, like that is insanity. Everyone knows it, and the disingenuousness in talking about it, I think, is what really hurts Democrats and and liberals because you can be pro-trans people and you can like advocate for some you know kind of wild things, but not admitting that there's slight differences between folks, I think is, that's where I fall off the wagon anyway.
[00:25:55] Keith: All right, I'm done.
[00:25:55] Mike: It's also unreasonable to have the requirement that there be more than two sets of facilities. So having expecting you know lots of individual bathrooms and locker rooms and so forth is unrealistic.
[00:26:07] Keith: Yeah, yeah the the joke about you know putting trans restrooms on an aircraft carrier with space is extremely limited.
[00:26:07] Mike: um
[00:26:12] Keith: as I mean, that was that wasn't the joke that was like actually suggested.
[00:26:13] Mike: Yeah. it should all
[00:26:16] Keith: it's like
[00:26:17] Mike: It should also be noted that this is all already regulated by the government. um You have the Americans with Disabilities Act. there's you can't You can't just have a hotel chain that only has men's rooms in it. You have to provide.
[00:26:31] Mike: Legally, you the government will come after you if you don't provide ah reasonable facilities for for everybody. um so this so So this is already something that's regulated. And if you stop regulating it, you're going to wind up with a situation where people don't have facilities available to them, like a situation where there's only men's rooms available or whites-only restrooms or something like that. um the i think that it's not I don't think you have to take it all the way to violence, as Keith does. I think it's also the fact that
[00:27:01] Mike: It's extremely asymmet as so asymmetrical, the titillation that men get from looking at women's bodies versus the opposite and women don't want to be subjected to that level of titillation. I don't think women understand in general the chaos that would ensue if men could do anything they wanted as regards getting access to seeing women naked. Like, I mean, yeah, if there was a locker room where guys could just like with a webcam, guys would be on it all the time. There probably are ones that are porn, but if there was a real amateur one, it would be quite well frequented by men.
[00:27:36] Mike: And, of course, the actual solution to this is to have one set of facilities that are for people who were born biologically female, not intersex, not any of that stuff, very clearly biological female and remain gendered female, and everyone else uses the other set of facilities.
[00:27:52] Mike: and sports and everything else should be the same way. so it's like once you so it's so So this is the point is you can be fine with trans or intersex or whatever, but it's like once you cease to be the clearly female category, you go into this other category that's one Keith and I am are in, and it's just everybody else.
[00:28:07] Mike: And I think that's but's what's best for everybody.
[00:28:07] Keith: I. I do think that that might be a pretty awful experience for female identifying people. um And so ah as I was saying, I don't know what the proper solution to that is. i thought Mike's suggestion, I think, is a good um first pass. And then you could try to come up with things that you know are more sensitive to these folks who are ah female identifying. But um so most of those are sort of expensive. And some of this the proposed solutions almost get to be comical.
[00:28:39] Keith: um another Another thing that is often done, you see this in Europe a lot, and I almost wonder if they're doing it spitefully.
[00:28:39] Mike: I think it makes sense.
[00:28:46] Keith: All the restroom spaces at restaurants and now are just mixed gender. there's no They don't separate anybody, and everybody just uses, you know there's like five stalls, and men and women use the same ones. and yeah If I were a woman, I think I would prefer my own space, but I'm not a woman, so I'm not sure.
[00:29:02] Mike: But they're in Europe, so they probably have top to bottom doors, right?
[00:29:05] Keith: Yes, yeah.
[00:29:06] Mike: So that that's important. An American person is going to listen to that and think that's crazy, but they they're basically little rooms. So it's not as crazy.
[00:29:11] Keith: Yeah.
[00:29:13] Ally: Yeah, I mean, maybe that's the solution is make everything single occupancy like on an airplane.
[00:29:19] Ally: A lot of really small cubicles.
[00:29:19] Keith: Yeah, maybe. if Yeah, but what if you're the old Cincinnati red stadium and yeah, like, are you going to impose that on all old facilities? Like, then you have to do all this construction and blah, blah, blah.
[00:29:33] Ally: If bathroom rape is as big an issue as you suggest, maybe they should.
[00:29:36] Mike: It's not the rape, it's not the rape, it's the it's the peeping.
[00:29:37] Keith: Not rape. mike yeah it's yeah Mike, you said that you know you're not taking it to violence. like i have like When I say project a threat, it doesn't have to be like somebody actually mounting somebody.
[00:29:46] Mike: Sure.
[00:29:48] Keith: there's Threat can be ah you know emotional, mental. Just the threat of a threat is yeah you know a cognitive load. So yeah anyway.
[00:29:57] Mike: even Even listening to this podcast in certain areas with you not on your headphones could be considered threatening and violence.
[00:30:04] Keith: ah All right.
[00:30:05] Mike: Especially when Ali's on.
[00:30:06] Ally: Okay, Mike has a dolphin thing.
[00:30:06] Keith: should we Yeah, should we move on to the dolphin?
[00:30:08] Mike: No, no, I wanted to i wanted to talk about trans porn first.
[00:30:10] Keith: Oh, OK, fine.
[00:30:11] Ally: um
[00:30:12] Mike: Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, so apparently Keith told me before the show that looking at trans porn makes me gay.
[00:30:12] Keith: There we go.
[00:30:18] Keith: No, that's not what I said.
[00:30:18] Mike: but shows you That shows you how... ah
[00:30:22] Keith: I said it calls it into question.
[00:30:22] Mike: shows you how welcoming he is. so i was ah So I ran across some trans porn recently. Somebody posted in the NSFW 411 subreddit. they were you know People generally are frustrated and rightly so. It's a shame with the amount of OnlyFans derived content on Reddit now, I mean, there's just much less so amateur quality porn than there was, but somebody posted a site and I don't have the yeah URL and I wouldn't give it to you even if I did ah for trans.
[00:30:47] Keith: Let's go for your name.
[00:30:54] Mike: It was a site that was really high quality trans porn. And I went there and I looked for ah train I was looking for the best stuff. And then I got a link to this subreddit that has trans porn where the penetration is orgasming. All right. And I went to the top of all time for this and they have hundreds of videos where a man, okay, a trans person. So it's a, it's a person with a penis and breasts is being penetrated anally.
[00:31:27] Mike: Has his penis, hit her penis, flapping around in the air. can you You can imagine what's going on here.
[00:31:32] Keith: Yeah, I got it, unfortunately.
[00:31:34] Mike: ah Usually in the doggy style position, but not always. It could be also missionary and just ejaculates.
[00:31:41] Keith: Without stroking it, like it just magically happens.
[00:31:43] Mike: Correct. Correct.
[00:31:45] Ally: And they're not erect?
[00:31:45] Mike: And this, no, they are.
[00:31:46] Keith: No, they are.
[00:31:47] Mike: ah ah the The most popular ones, it's like paint, it's like so big, the erection, it's sort of impressive. They're so aroused. And it's actually kind of, I have to say this, like it's it's kind of, there's something compelling about it because ah it's like, it's a person who's believably, because they're ejaculating, having an orgasm just through penetration.
[00:32:06] Mike: So they're so excited that someone's fucking them that they, They come from it, which is, of course, I say it's compelling because this is a primary male fantasy. like Men all want women to orgasm just from the presence of their penis inside their body.
[00:32:19] Keith: Right. but this Does this change your ah view of women orgasming from PIV at all?
[00:32:20] Mike: okay so
[00:32:25] Mike: This is the point. This is the point is you watch it and you're like, well, wait a minute.
[00:32:26] Keith: Yeah.
[00:32:28] Mike: Like this shows here are these, this set of people that clearly through the mental experience and maybe some prostate stimulation of being anally penetrated or just shooting ropes of nut everywhere.
[00:32:40] Mike: Um, Ali, have you ever been with a, with a, with a partner who did this without any touching of his penis?
[00:32:44] Ally: No.
[00:32:45] Mike: Just fucking there's just no, you've always had to stroke it a lot to get it out.
[00:32:47] Ally: No.
[00:32:51] Ally: Well, there there's have there has to be some contact with the penis. Yeah.
[00:32:55] Mike: I mean, this does happen. Like sometimes people will be like, you know, teenagers will be kissing or whatever. And the guy will ejaculate. You've never experienced a guy doing that that you know of.
[00:33:05] Ally: Not independent of any kind of touching of the penis, no.
[00:33:09] Mike: Okay. All right.
[00:33:09] Keith: Yeah, I've never experienced this myself. Well, I don't know. Maybe I have it a wet dream or something, but I think even then I'm probably grinding against the mattress or a pillow.
[00:33:17] Mike: Like when a guy is just balls deep in your ass, you've never come like this, Keith.
[00:33:22] Keith: ah That is the null set, but I have to admit. Yeah, like.
[00:33:30] Keith: Yeah, I'm vaguely curious about this.
[00:33:30] Mike: Oh.
[00:33:33] Mike: Ah, yes.
[00:33:34] Keith: Like. Like my, my disgust of anal sex, I think is the, is the main barrier here. Like I can imagine anal sex feeling good.
[00:33:42] Mike: Right.
[00:33:44] Keith: I don't know if I'm, get if I can imagine it feeling so good that I have like, you know, rock hard erection. And then I just apropos of nothing, uh, or orgasm, but just from, just from the anal penetration, but right.
[00:33:55] Mike: And this is someone filming a porn, too. There's someone filming a porn too, so it's it's a little less... Now, maybe they're taking some drug or something. that It's a little less believable that they'd be so excited.
[00:34:02] Ally: yeah
[00:34:04] Mike: It's not like their first time with their new partners. I don't know. It's not some particularly exciting event. ah They're filming a porn.
[00:34:10] Ally: Yeah, is there a drug that causes this? Like, does poppers do this?
[00:34:15] Mike: and Not to my knowledge.
[00:34:16] Ally: Okay.
[00:34:17] Mike: ah Yeah, I mean, it's like this to me, this provides a nice that was the thing, of course, I thought is this provides a nice analogy to women who get so excited through being penetrated by their partner and also with some amount of G spot or otherwise, uh, stimulation managed to have an orgasm. It's just that with a woman, like you can't, it's a little difficult, particularly as a porn viewer. I mean, most of any man's sexual experience is viewing porn realistically. And so I just don't know which women are actually having orgasms and which ones aren't. It'd be really nice if there was like some Apple watch they could wear or some app to tell me that they're actually orgasming.
[00:34:55] Mike: Maybe a lie detector machine or some, you know how some Twitch streamers like have their pulse rate showing?
[00:35:02] Keith: Yes.
[00:35:02] Mike: Maybe porn should start doing that.
[00:35:05] Keith: Is there, I think you would need a brain scan to know if somebody's orgasming.
[00:35:09] Mike: Probably.
[00:35:11] Keith: that That would be the dispositive evidence, I think. Did you guys see?
[00:35:16] Mike: I think you could do with an anal probe, but yeah, go ahead.
[00:35:18] Keith: Yeah, maybe. Yeah, i yeah maybe.
[00:35:22] Ally: Keith, you probably have one of those running heart rate monitors, right? And you could see if it's possible for you to orgasm without changing your heart rate.
[00:35:29] Keith: I almost always take my watch off to masturbate or to have sex. So much so that partners of mine, it's it's almost like a tell if I'm taking my watch off that like I'm a but and but about to initiate.
[00:35:36] Mike: Wait.
[00:35:44] Keith: um
[00:35:45] Mike: That's, you know, that's ah there's an analogy that I really like here. um ah you You probably don't know this, listeners probably don't know this, but when, like one of the things that, um when chess players know they've won a position, they'll put their watch back on.
[00:35:56] Keith: Oh, interesting.
[00:35:59] Mike: because they're like, done. They're like, oh yeah, I'm done. like And so it's a little like that. You take your watch off and the woman's like, oh, now he he he's assuming he's gonna fuck me now.
[00:36:05] Ally: Oh.
[00:36:05] Keith: Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
[00:36:07] Mike: It's kind of funny.
[00:36:10] Keith: Yeah.
[00:36:11] Ally: You should have a second watch that you then put on and that's your second watch.
[00:36:11] Keith: ah
[00:36:16] Keith: um Did you guys see the Sophie Raine OnlyFans model story that came out this week?
[00:36:22] Mike: No.
[00:36:22] Ally: No.
[00:36:23] Keith: ah She posted, I think on X, I don't remember, ah she grossed $43 million dollars from November 28th, 2023 to November 28th, 2024 on OnlyFans.
[00:36:40] Keith: She's 20 years old. ah In an interview with TMZ, she claims she's a virgin.
[00:36:44] Mike: All right, fine. What's her, what's her name?
[00:36:47] Keith: Sophie Raine, if you Google her, there will be all this talk about this. But yeah, she posted a screenshot of the OnlyFans thing.
[00:36:52] Mike: Hmm.
[00:36:55] Mike: Hmm.
[00:36:56] Keith: 43 million.
[00:36:56] Mike: I mean, she's, so is it, what, what do you, I mean, you, you are a connoisseur Keith of very, very ultra attractive women, which I'm, I don't, it's a little hard for me to tell honestly, if she's ultra attractive, but do you think she is?
[00:37:09] Keith: um I don't think she's in the you know top, and I don't think she's 95th percentile on OnlyFans for sure.
[00:37:11] Mike: Hmm.
[00:37:18] Keith: But it's not about how attractive you are, it's how good you are at at the marketing aspect, which apparently she's really good at.
[00:37:18] Mike: Hmm.
[00:37:19] Ally: Oh wow.
[00:37:25] Mike: Hmm.
[00:37:25] Ally: but She must be at least 99th percentile at making money on Onlyfans, right? and Okay.
[00:37:30] Keith: Oh, yeah for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure.
[00:37:30] Mike: Oh, yeah.
[00:37:32] Keith: Yeah, I'm just saying that physical attractiveness is only part of the ingredients there.
[00:37:35] Mike: Oh, her part of her deal is that she's a virgin, I bet.
[00:37:36] Ally: um Okay.
[00:37:39] Keith: Yeah, that's what TMC claims.
[00:37:39] Mike: So people get does she does she show her hymen or something?
[00:37:43] Keith: Hymen? I don't know. i've I've seen that in Japanese porn.
[00:37:44] Ally: um
[00:37:47] Keith: Although I don't really know what a hymen looks like, so I can't tell if like what I'm seeing is legitimate or not.
[00:37:47] Mike: Yeah.
[00:37:51] Mike: Well, so you should.
[00:37:52] Keith: But it's but still sort of fun when they get the camera all up in there and you could hear the Japanese men in Japanese say stuff excitedly.
[00:38:01] Mike: It's someone it says here that one person accounted for five million of the dollars.
[00:38:01] Keith: It's an entertaining trope.
[00:38:06] Keith: Wow.
[00:38:07] Mike: And the first response on Reddit was simps gonna simp. Sounds right. I don't, I mean, you would probably pay something Keith. I'm imagining if you were sure that it was a Virgin who was of age to see what her vagina looked like.
[00:38:19] Mike: You probably out of curiosity.
[00:38:19] Keith: Yes, I would for sure. Yeah, why not?
[00:38:22] Mike: Yeah.
[00:38:22] Keith: Yeah. I don't know if she has, I mean, I'm, let me see how much her Onlyfans costs.
[00:38:27] Mike: I mean, this is why, this is why that doctor for the U S women's gymnastics team did nothing wrong.
[00:38:28] Keith: I might subscribe right here on the air.
[00:38:34] Keith: Wow. ah You're back to your defense of of Larry Nassar. buts
[00:38:38] Mike: Yeah. I mean, this is all he wanted to do. He just wanted to see, you know, so young women's vaginas, just like these people paying this woman, right?
[00:38:47] Keith: Uh, if I type in only fans, Sophie rain, the first link isn't her only fans page.
[00:38:47] Mike: Virginal.
[00:38:52] Keith: In fact, I mean, fucking Google, I'm going to bring, I'm going to bang.
[00:38:53] Mike: I tried it too. the ah the i mean the The problem with gymnasts, of course, is that you always read that the hymen can be ripped through riding a horse or doing the balance beam.
[00:38:59] Ally: Thank you.
[00:39:05] Ally: Alright.
[00:39:06] Mike: I've read that anyway. So then gymnasts are not going to be your ideal target market there if you if you're wanting as original as possible.
[00:39:12] Keith: Is it a. Isn't it the case that most people's Hymen? Okay. It's $5 for 31 days. Uh, I'm going to subscribe right now.
[00:39:21] Mike: and Okay, so maybe you should try it out and see if it's worth it. Oh my god.
[00:39:25] Keith: All right. Log in. Uh, you guys should talk about something else.
[00:39:28] Mike: 43 million and $5. Okay. Well, while Keith's doing that, i can bring I can bring you up to speed on dolphins' sex.
[00:39:36] Keith: Okay.
[00:39:36] Mike: So um I read an article, well, was there was a video in an article about the fact that dolphins have prehensile penises, which means their penis can kind of come out of the slit in their body and um crap grasp onto things.
[00:39:50] Mike: And there's some pretty fun videos actually on YouTube you can watch of dolphins trying to fuck women. women decide they want to go swim with the dolphins, but of course the dolphins just, and you know, it's just living its life.
[00:39:59] Ally: Oh.
[00:40:00] Mike: It doesn't care. And the dolphin like immediately goes for their crunch.
[00:40:04] Ally: Yeah.
[00:40:04] Keith: Yeah, this is a well-known phenomenon.
[00:40:05] Ally: There was a Radiolab episode about this woman who lived with a dolphin who said that she had to give the dolphin hand jobs in order to get the dolphin to like learn things.
[00:40:08] Mike: Here we go. This is what I was going to bring up.
[00:40:12] Ally: Did you listen to this Radiolab episode?
[00:40:13] Mike: And I didn't listen to it, i so I read some stuff about it.
[00:40:15] Keith: What the heck?
[00:40:16] Mike: So she was giving it hand jobs and then she stopped giving it hand jobs and apparently it committed suicide subsequent to this by going by sinking to the bottom of its tank and not breathing.
[00:40:18] Ally: Yeah.
[00:40:24] Ally: What? No. No. and it died?
[00:40:29] Mike: So yeah, it committed suicide.
[00:40:30] Ally: That wasn't in the radio laugh, wait.
[00:40:32] Mike: Well, Radiolab doesn't give you the full story. ah so that's So let that be a lesson to you, Allie. Like if you start, I don't know, you'll have have only female pets, but if you get a male pet and start beating it off, like don't stop abruptly, okay?
[00:40:44] Ally: Yeah, wait, okay, I have to read about this dolphin now.
[00:40:48] Mike: there's There's some good ah videos actually of ah animals ejaculating, which I think is what I was looking for. um And I found one.
[00:40:56] Ally: I don't understand. Yeah, in the episode, she makes it sound very natural and as though it followed logically that she would start giving the dolphin hand jobs because she was trying to teach it how to talk and she was like, well, it wouldn't pay attention because it had an erection.
[00:41:10] Ally: So I just took care of that and then it you know could continue with the lesson.
[00:41:12] Mike: No,
[00:41:13] Ally: That doesn't at all seem like a logical thing to do.
[00:41:15] Mike: you it is logical. That's actually that's actually how we taught my son to talk. He didn't want to talk. And so I started I would start giving him blow jobs.
[00:41:22] Ally: but
[00:41:23] Mike: Now, of course, it doesn't follow.
[00:41:24] Ally: yeah so
[00:41:27] Mike: Come on.
[00:41:28] Keith: Oh, man.
[00:41:29] Mike: No, I mean, she's just she's just some whack whack job, but one of these wackos that likes animals more than they do humans. Yeah.
[00:41:36] Ally: I've never beaten off an animal. I'm trying to find where it says the dolphin committed suicide in front of her.
[00:41:42] Mike: I think you would, Hallie, I think you would, in certain circumstances.
[00:41:45] Ally: No.
[00:41:45] Mike: I think there's a situation where you would beat off an animal.
[00:41:48] Keith: I think it's necessary for horses to stud.
[00:41:48] Ally: No.
[00:41:50] Keith: I think there's like i think it's a fairly well-known job that like somebody has to jerk off the horse to get it to produce semen.
[00:41:53] Mike: Oh, for sure.
[00:41:57] Mike: Okay, this is a decent picture you've sent, Keith, but I mean, that doesn't, so this is a picture of Sophie Raine that you've sent out. um
[00:42:02] Keith: Yeah, I stored it by most liked and this is her most liked on her only fans now. Fully nude content available. I don't, I can probably message her or something.
[00:42:15] Keith: And no,
[00:42:16] Mike: Oh, you don't get any fully nude content for your $5. Wow.
[00:42:20] Keith: no.
[00:42:20] Mike: Now it does say that I noticed she has a green dot under her name. Does that mean she's online or at least an AI avatar of hers online? Maybe she'd like to come on the show.
[00:42:28] Keith: Oh, yeah, probably. Yeah, that green dot does mean she's online.
[00:42:32] Mike: She could, I do hope that she, she's American.
[00:42:33] Keith: Yeah, it says available now.
[00:42:37] Mike: Is that right?
[00:42:38] Keith: I presume.
[00:42:39] Mike: I hope she benefits from the Trump tax cuts, because that's the kind of person we need to be helping that kind of entrepreneur.
[00:42:42] Keith: Yeah, I think she will. But will those get it will those get put into play before April of 2025?
[00:42:51] Mike: He'll extend them, and i' presumably she's going to continue making this kind of money, so I don't i don't want her to be paying any taxes. she Obviously, she she needs to keep that money.
[00:43:00] Keith: All right, I'm marking it down that we covered the dolphin thing question mark, which you told us you were gonna bring up. All right. um Let's do this one because it grossed me out and I wanna gross you guys out.
[00:43:16] Keith: ah This person says, hu hubby told me very politely. I'm a 23 year old female and my husband is 25. Got married recently. He told me today that during doggy style, he gets turned off when he can see hair on my butt.
[00:43:28] Keith: I shave at home, not much money to get waxed professionally.
[00:43:29] Mike: Yeah.
[00:43:31] Keith: How can I do this at home and not cut or nick myself? And the number one response was make it a group activity, which en grossed me out. You've seen videos where the guy's helping the woman shave her vagina, right?
[00:43:40] Mike: Oh, really?
[00:43:48] Keith: That's but's mildly intriguing, but as shaving my partner's ass hair does not, that doesn't do it for me.
[00:43:48] Mike: Sure.
[00:43:57] Mike: You wouldn't. And that's because of the presence of the poop. The intestines are too close.
[00:44:01] Keith: I just, yeah, I just don't like just getting
[00:44:05] Mike: I'm assuming that this means hair right around the anus, not like.
[00:44:08] Keith: Yes. Yeah. This person said on, but her English is not great throughout. So I think she meant in or around.
[00:44:14] Mike: Mm hmm. I mean, like there was a post, there was a porn posted to the female or oriented porn subreddit within the last week where women were gushing about it and it was just some man just like slobbering a woman's asshole for like 20 minutes.
[00:44:30] Mike: It's really, it wasn't my favorite thing. And you know what he would also do? This is true. He would put his fingers like a dipstick in there, pull them out and then lick them.
[00:44:39] Keith: That, I mean, I think he's trying to be maximally submissive.
[00:44:40] Mike: Like what, why?
[00:44:45] Keith: That's my guess. It's like, look at how I'm so attracted to this person that I'll do like whatever the most repulsive thing. Like what would be more repulsive than that? Like eating her vomit or something?
[00:44:55] Mike: I mean going in deeper, like the deeper you go, the worse it gets. So I think like, yeah, if you put a foot long dildo up there and then lick the tip of it, when it came out, that would be even worse.
[00:45:04] Keith: Would you rather eat five grams of turd or five grams of vomit?
[00:45:07] Mike: and go ah
[00:45:12] Mike: um Probably I might, yeah, that's a, that's an interesting, you could, you could, you would make an effective terrorist, Keith.
[00:45:14] Keith: or or or pull a dolphin and kill yourself.
[00:45:18] Ally: um
[00:45:23] Keith: um Thank you. I'm going to write these down.
[00:45:25] Mike: You're welcome.
[00:45:26] Keith: um All right. Yeah. So I don't know. I just, okay. What is the canonical way to remove a hair from your asshole? Like, let's say you're a woman and like, you know, maybe you're um from Turkey and you have a hair down there.
[00:45:36] Ally: So I think shaving, but
[00:45:38] Keith: Like, what do you do?
[00:45:40] Ally: Well, shaving or Nair like creams or there are wax strips that they sell that you can use yourself. Like I've used those to wax my legs and you can do it yourself. The comments bring up all of these options. I think those are all reasonable.
[00:45:53] Mike: How carefully do you have to, I mean, how much, how aggressive do you have to get though? I mean, do you, like, are you, it is it, is it an operation that's easily performed by you in the shower or is there no contortions required?
[00:46:02] Ally: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:46:06] Ally: No, I think shaving is fairly easy and I've used the hair removal creams kind of all over my, like the lower half of my body and that's been fine also.
[00:46:14] Keith: Yeah, but hold on. How would you even shave your asshole? You would like pull one cheek aside, and then with the other hand, get the razor in there, and then just like draw it across your puckered asshole?
[00:46:20] Ally: Yeah, you do one side at a time.
[00:46:26] Keith: That seems risky. That seems like a fold could get like nicked or caught in the fight.
[00:46:29] Mike: I think this scares us more, Keith, because of the presence of the cock. The cock and balls make it scarier.
[00:46:33] Keith: Yeah, maybe.
[00:46:35] Mike: Because like when anytime a razor's near our penis, at least me, I'm thinking like that somehow this is going to wind up cutting my cock.
[00:46:38] Keith: No. Yeah, I don't.
[00:46:42] Ally: it's It's like shaving the labia, like you pull one side of it so the skin is taut and then you do kind of one side at a time.
[00:46:47] Keith: But you could see it. Well, okay. You're going to say you can't see it. You can see it better.
[00:46:51] Ally: You can see part of it, yeah.
[00:46:52] Keith: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:46:53] Ally: but She could use a mirror if she wants to really see it, I guess.
[00:46:56] Keith: You would need a third hand because one hand remember is pulling the ass cheek apart.
[00:47:00] Ally: She could just put a mirror on on the side of the toilet or on the side of the shower. I don't know wherever she can...
[00:47:04] Keith: It's getting complicated quickly. Okay. Now, if you use Nair, how does Nair work?
[00:47:07] Ally: look
[00:47:10] Keith: Like it it it somehow burns hair, but doesn't, isn't caustic to other cells.
[00:47:16] Ally: I'm not really sure how Nair works chemically.
[00:47:17] Mike: Well, what happens when you use it, Ali?
[00:47:19] Keith: Yeah.
[00:47:20] Ally: You leave it on for a set amount of time, like maybe two minutes.
[00:47:20] Keith: Does it smell weird?
[00:47:23] Ally: And then when you wash it off, the hair washes off with the cream.
[00:47:23] Keith: Uh-huh.
[00:47:28] Ally: I actually, I don't know how it works chemically. There are probably different formulations of it that are more gentle for where intimate areas.
[00:47:36] Keith: Is it effective? Like, does it get rid of all the hair? And if so, why doesn't everyone just use Nair?
[00:47:42] Ally: It smells bad.
[00:47:44] Keith: Ugh.
[00:47:44] Ally: And if you leave it on for too long, it will burn your skin.
[00:47:50] Mike: Huh.
[00:47:51] Keith: What happens if you put Nair like in your ear? Would it like burn? what What are the like little hairs that help you hear? Like, can you like really do damage to yourself with Nair?
[00:47:59] Mike: Aren't the hairs on the other side of the eardrum, Keith?
[00:47:59] Ally: Probably.
[00:48:02] Ally: Yeah, I think if you put an air in your eardrum, you could definitely mess yourself up.
[00:48:02] Keith: I don't know.
[00:48:06] Ally: Don't do that.
[00:48:07] Keith: Okay. i It's not on my shortlist.
[00:48:08] Ally: but
[00:48:09] Keith: Just ask a big question.
[00:48:10] Mike: I would think, I mean, this
[00:48:10] Ally: I mean, like, yeah, don't use it on your eyes or something like that.
[00:48:13] Mike: Sounds like it could be useful for like a drug cartel, like if you've murdered someone, you put them in a barrel of Nair, and then there's just, I mean, at minimum they're hairless after a while, but maybe you get the whole body.
[00:48:18] Ally: Yeah, yeah.
[00:48:22] Keith: I saw that episode of Breaking Bad, yeah.
[00:48:22] Ally: Yeah.
[00:48:25] Keith: um All right, um this is a That's just a classic topic. He says it isn't as tight or grippy as his ex, 29-year-old female.
[00:48:35] Keith: First time having sex with my boyfriend, he's pretty much a friends with benefits. After sex, he told me it wasn't as tight or grippy as he's expected what he's used to as he as he expected, and what he's used to with other girls.
[00:48:47] Keith: I didn't even know what to say. He asked me if I had a high body count. I told him that doesn't have anything to do with it. I've never had a guy complain.
[00:48:53] Mike: but yeah So yes.
[00:48:54] Keith: And this has made me really insecure. Thoughts, is he just messing with me? Um, okay. Look, I'll say the thing I always say, I think that partnered people have more sex than unpartnered people.
[00:49:07] Keith: So if vaginal tightness is related to the amount of sex you've had someone who's like had a boyfriend for five years is going to have a looser vagina than someone who is a free agent for all that time.
[00:49:17] Mike: Well, but what if, I mean, do you think, I do think it's likely, let's say you had two women who, had let's say identical twins and one of them just had a normal partnered sex life for five years.
[00:49:25] Keith: Yeah. Okay.
[00:49:28] Mike: The other one had a more sort of staccato sex life, but it was with repeatedly with guys who liked to fist them.
[00:49:28] Keith: Yep.
[00:49:34] Keith: Yeah.
[00:49:34] Mike: I do think the one that was being fisted would be looser later.
[00:49:37] Keith: Well, what if it set aside like repeated fisting? Like it could like a couple experiences with a huge cock like actually distend your vagina permanently?
[00:49:46] Ally: No, because when you give birth, everything expands enormously and it shrinks back.
[00:49:51] Keith: I know. I know. I know. I was, I was, I was aiming what it was.
[00:49:54] Mike: Well, I mean, but does it shrink back as far? what I mean, people people want to make women feel good about this, but but i'm not sure that I'm not sure there's any real peer reviewed studies on whether it shrinks back completely.
[00:49:57] Keith: i
[00:50:05] Mike: It probably does not. I mean, just being realistic here. you know
[00:50:09] Keith: I think it does. I think the thing that happens is the woman, I think the woman, the woman develops a taste for huge cocks.
[00:50:12] Mike: what What makes you think that?
[00:50:17] Keith: So like the problem is actually, the problem is actually on the other side, which is like, yeah. you
[00:50:22] Mike: Okay. You're saying that childbirth gives women a taste for gigantic cocks later.
[00:50:23] Keith: but
[00:50:26] Keith: No, no, that's not what I'm saying.
[00:50:27] Mike: Okay.
[00:50:27] Keith: I'm saying a gigan a gigantic cock gives them a taste for a gigantic cock.
[00:50:28] Mike: Okay.
[00:50:34] Mike: i I mean, there are going to be some women for whom that's true. And so then you're thinking they're going to have gigantic cocks frequently enough that then if you're, if you slip in there as a modest sized penis in the middle, it'll just be totally loose.
[00:50:47] Mike: Cause it hasn't had time to deflate.
[00:50:47] Keith: ah No, no, I think, no, okay. I think it has been widely debunked that having sex with like a big cock doesn't actually affect your future vaginal tightness. No, the issue is that once they've you know done these like various unusual things, like you know somebody like slat slaps them around or you know tells them that they're a slut or does various S and&M, or you know you get out the 10-inch dildo. Once you do these things, some people develop a taste, and then they're denormalized forevermore.
[00:51:24] Mike: Well, especially if I mean, that's this is why you have the standard question where the guy says that he tried one of those penis sleeves and his girlfriend, her wife really liked it.
[00:51:34] Mike: And now he's kind of in trouble because she wants it every time.
[00:51:34] Keith: Yeah, brutal. Yeah.
[00:51:36] Mike: And so it it turns out that like the the girth really works for her.
[00:51:40] Keith: Yeah.
[00:51:40] Mike: um
[00:51:41] Ally: yeah I mean, the the comments here are all saying that it has to do with his penis size, which is possible. But I've also noticed that vaginal tightness varies across your cycle in the sense that when you're menstruating, it's a little bit looser.
[00:51:55] Keith: How do you know?
[00:51:55] Ally: I'm not really sure why.
[00:51:57] Keith: You can't know that. Do you have a way can you talking about feedback you've received?
[00:52:01] Ally: um
[00:52:03] Ally: Well, when I'm on my period and I'm in the shower, I will stick a finger up inside me to kind of like clear out whatever, you know, blood or whatever is inside me to like clean up in there during this.
[00:52:08] Keith: Fist yourself. Okay.
[00:52:12] Keith: Oh, my word. Is that true?
[00:52:17] Ally: Yeah, and so I noticed that like at the very beginning and at the very end, it's like tighter than during and like, I don't know if that's because the blood adds additional lubrication.
[00:52:17] Mike: I like the sound of this.
[00:52:25] Ally: I think it I think there actually is some difference there. I mean, this is anecdotal, but i no,
[00:52:30] Mike: But you don't do this every shower.
[00:52:30] Keith: Of course.
[00:52:31] Mike: So you don't like you only do it when you know it's going to be an issue.
[00:52:35] Keith: I bet she's done it a few times in other shower situations, though. So mostly it happens during this one situation, but it's happened in other times when it's not that situation.
[00:52:45] Keith: So she also.
[00:52:45] Ally: Yeah, and sometimes I'll continue doing it for a few days after my cycle has ended just to make sure that everything is like cleaned out.
[00:52:51] Keith: Huh.
[00:52:51] Mike: do you Are you able to tell, because some women will claim this, but you know they could be lying, are you able to tell, say across the 24 hours after, kind of a vigorous sex session with a relatively large penis to the extent you've had a large penis, ah that there was a large penis in there before?
[00:53:06] Ally: and Which may never have happened.
[00:53:09] Mike: like how For how long do you feel the ah feel the after effects and in your nether region?
[00:53:10] Ally: yeah
[00:53:13] Ally: Oh, yeah, so about 24 hours after it does feel kind of swollen and actually I think it makes it tighter because of the swelling of the internal tissues, I think.
[00:53:25] Mike: So you feel sort of, you're like a boxer after a fight with their face swollen. You've got this kind of, this kind of crotch that's just sort of puffy.
[00:53:32] Ally: Not the whole crotch, I mean that in the inside of the vaginal canal, yeah.
[00:53:36] Mike: You mean the, the, yeah.
[00:53:37] Keith: so Don't you guys think this is sort of like, I don't know. i I feel like the dominating factor in whether a woman feels grippy or tight, which are the adjectives that this lady used is how wet she is. And I feel like.
[00:53:56] Keith: A single person's wetness varies plenty for there to be different perceived situations more than like any material differences in their tightness. But maybe if we just modified this whole thing to like material ah experience of her tightness instead of like actual tightness, then we just all agree.
[00:54:13] Ally: It could have to do with wetness too. Yeah, I agree. Somebody who's more wet is going to feel less tight.
[00:54:19] Keith: Right.
[00:54:19] Mike: I like Ali's general idea here that the right response from a woman is to say, well, actually if you're, I'm tighter because of fucking a lot because I'm, i' I'm swollen or whatever.
[00:54:30] Mike: Like, but like, it's like the tissue actually, how do you know you're swollen? Ali, because you feel sort of, you can tell you give some sort of proprioception in there that you can, you're like, oh yeah, this feels swollen.
[00:54:39] Ally: um Yeah, if i if I put a finger inside me, it does feel more swollen around that finger. um Yeah, right, right.
[00:54:45] Mike: But you have to, but you have to put a finger and you can't feel it absent that.
[00:54:49] Keith: Well, isn't it, don't women like carry more water weight or something when they're menstruating? That's why like some women's breasts, like I dated this girl who's like breasts got enormous right before she would start menstruating.
[00:54:54] Ally: Yeah,
[00:55:01] Keith: It was sort of annoying. They got like really tantalizing, but ah they would get like super sensitive. So like just when they like looked at their best, I was least able to enjoy them.
[00:55:13] Keith: It was tricky.
[00:55:14] Ally: yeah
[00:55:16] Keith: um
[00:55:16] Mike: Why did their sensitivity make us you couldn't enjoy them?
[00:55:20] Keith: I was wondering if you were gonna make a comment like that, yeah.
[00:55:22] Mike: No, no. i so So it's because her nipples were too sensitive and she'd say, don't touch them.
[00:55:24] Keith: Oh, yeah, I guess she just didn't want them groped as much.
[00:55:29] Mike: Hmm. Hmm.
[00:55:30] Keith: I think men groping breasts is sort of weird, generally.
[00:55:33] Ally: Yeah.
[00:55:33] Keith: like so I would say like one in five women I've been with seem to be like into breast play, but most are just sort of ambivalent or indifferent.
[00:55:35] Ally: Wow.
[00:55:45] Mike: Makes sense.
[00:55:45] Keith: and mean I mean, I'd say it's just...
[00:55:46] Mike: Right. It's not, it's, uh, I mean, I think once long ago and you argued with me at this point, I told you that I thought most women, when they think of their breasts, think of providing milk to an infant and you didn't like that very much.
[00:55:56] Mike: But I think then later you, you thought maybe I was right.
[00:55:59] Keith: Yeah.
[00:55:59] Mike: Like it's not, they're not particularly sexual organs in most cases to women.
[00:56:04] Keith: Yeah, I don't know why.
[00:56:07] Mike: Like I don't consider my balls to be particularly so sexual, sort of the same. Yeah. I view them as like the thing that produces the sperm.
[00:56:13] Keith: Yeah, they're not very erogenous.
[00:56:13] Mike: Like it's not right.
[00:56:15] Keith: It's a little bit hot when like somebody sucks on my balls during a blow job, but I think it's just because it's sort of submissive and it's like leading up to, you know, it's like if somebody like kisses your stomach on the way down, it's not
[00:56:27] Mike: Right.
[00:56:27] Keith: super arousing, that act, it's the emotions around it.
[00:56:31] Ally: I think that's because the kind of touch that is erotic, at least for me, like the very, very gently stroking the surface of the nipple is not the way that most men grow breasts, which is to say a full handed kind of like squeezing.
[00:56:43] Keith: Yeah, but Ali, I know, but I've been with women that like really aggressive breast play and I've been with women that just like their nipples barely feathered.
[00:56:44] Ally: but
[00:56:48] Ally: Hmm.
[00:56:51] Keith: And so, you know, and then nobody ever communicates it.
[00:56:51] Ally: Hmm. Hmm.
[00:56:54] Keith: So I have to like, you know, go through the ah book of tricks and and see what ah elicits a moan. It's annoying.
[00:57:02] Mike: That's why you need that like that card game where you can, like in a safe way, share your interests or whatever.
[00:57:09] Ally: Yeah, you should should you should administer a survey at the beginning of every film to kind of Madlib style.
[00:57:09] Mike: There's some sort of game people play.
[00:57:14] Mike: I think he does that after the third fuck.
[00:57:16] Ally: Okay.
[00:57:17] Keith: If people could just communicate what they wanted, this could all be avoided.
[00:57:17] Mike: Let's get a lot of our data.
[00:57:21] Mike: Right.
[00:57:22] Keith: um Do we have time for one more? Let me see if I have something quick here. yeah We did the dolphin thing. Okay. This person says, why don't sugar daddies get plastic surgery?
[00:57:35] Keith: You guys have so much disposable income, but you would sooner buy a pricey sports car or offer money and to attract a younger woman, possibly even pay for her to get procedures rather than improving the source of your insecurities and troubles with women.
[00:57:46] Keith: in the form of your own features. I'm not that vain, but we all know some sugar daddies out there are less than blessed in the looks department. These guys can't attract the women they're looking for without an allowance. That means money.
[00:57:57] Keith: Of course, I don't mean all older men. Some of you guys are super attractive, but there's a certain subset of men who look for a sugar baby because they have a lot of trouble getting a girl otherwise.
[00:58:04] Ally: Thank you.
[00:58:07] Keith: Hmm. um
[00:58:09] Mike: I mean, I don't think that it works very well for men. Like usually the things that make men physically more attractive re require effort, like going to the gym or exercise or whatever dieting.
[00:58:17] Keith: I think it's the same for women. I think plastic surgery by and large makes women look worse.
[00:58:22] Mike: Hmm. I think that, I mean, yeah, I think that oftentimes plastic surgery is sort of invisible. So then you don't realize how well it worked.
[00:58:29] Keith: Well, that's the thing. Yeah. Like I think the counter argument be like, well, you don't know when it looks good. And it's like, yeah, you're right.
[00:58:34] Mike: Right.
[00:58:35] Keith: I don't. Um, and maybe it's the case that there's this huge cohort of women out there who have had plastic surgery and look much better and I'm just unable to detect it. But I think more likely is I'm detecting it at around the rate that it's done.
[00:58:48] Keith: And and generally I think it is not great.
[00:58:52] Mike: So you're just, you think men are more rational and have a negative, an appropriately negative view of plastic surgery and women are irrationally gone.
[00:58:58] Keith: No, no, I think men would might even be more irrational in this sense.
[00:58:59] Mike: Yeah.
[00:59:02] Keith: Like if there was something like a boob job that men could get. So boob jobs are are like almost a special case of plastic surgery. It's different than Botox and facelifts and very, very schematic things you get done to your face, which I think are lip injections.
[00:59:14] Mike: Yeah.
[00:59:15] Keith: I feel like all of those are detectable. um But yeah, when you get a boob job, men often, I feel like I can tell, but men often can't tell until you've already sort of sealed the deal.
[00:59:28] Keith: And so yeah, like if there was something, and and I think having big breasts does like plus one or plus two, a lot of women. And so if there was something that men could do that were like that, I think they would do it. Like, can you imagine if there was a surgery that could like make your penis an inch bigger and like women can't even see that.
[00:59:42] Keith: I think everyone would do it.
[00:59:44] Mike: No, because women don't care. It wouldn't actually help you get you wouldn't get more partnered orgasms out of it or whatever.
[00:59:46] Keith: Well, maybe.
[00:59:49] Keith: Yeah.
[00:59:52] Mike: But yeah, I mean, buying a sports car basically is the male version of plastic surgery. That's the answer here.
[00:59:56] Keith: Yeah, I think that's right. um And like to her point, why doesn't she get a fucking job instead of being a sugar baby? Don't go after these men that are like not doing the vain thing. like There's something she could do to get money that wouldn't be.
[01:00:14] Keith: um
[01:00:15] Mike: Well, she should get her ass over to OnlyFans, because that's obviously where the money is.
[01:00:17] Keith: Yeah, it should. I mean so don't think there are any sugar babies that make $43 million dollars a year. um
[01:00:24] Mike: Well, it depends on whether you count like someone who marries a rich guy and steals his money, like Laurene Powell Jobs or someone like that.
[01:00:31] Keith: Did she have a new husband?
[01:00:34] Mike: No, but I mean, she got all of Steve Jobs' money.
[01:00:36] Keith: Somebody was, oh, I see. Somebody was completely, what's ah Jeff Bezos, his ex-wife?
[01:00:42] Mike: Yeah, or Mackenzie or like the Bill Gates' ex-wife, like these people, I mean, that's it's sort of the same thing, right?
[01:00:42] Keith: Mackenzie.
[01:00:45] Keith: Right. Right. Yeah.
[01:00:50] Mike: ah Yeah, it's the same thing just to be clear. It's the same thing because they had nothing to do, essentially nothing to do with the earning of the money. Maybe they helped with a little of it, but I mean, the vast majority of it was just sort of luck because of the person starting the company and having all the shares.
[01:01:01] Mike: It's not related to the wife at all.
[01:01:01] Keith: Yeah. Right. um All right. That's time. You guys have anything else you want to add?
[01:01:07] Mike: I do. um I wanted to let people know that I do know what the word ingenuous means. That's it.
[01:01:13] Keith: Is it not the opposite of disingenuous?
[01:01:15] Mike: It is not.
[01:01:16] Keith: I thought it wasn't. And at least I called out that I thought it was poor word choice in the moments. I'm slightly less embarrassed.
[01:01:23] Mike: Yes. Did you Ali know what ingenuous meant?
[01:01:27] Ally: I'm looking it up now. Well, this is kind of what I thought it meant.
[01:01:28] Mike: Yes, no.
[01:01:30] Keith: Yeah, she's too quick.
[01:01:32] Mike: No, she's kind of. Yeah, well, she's just lying.
[01:01:34] Ally: Innocent and unsuspecting.
[01:01:34] Keith: Should we leave it?
[01:01:37] Mike: Yeah, but disingenuous is, that's the important thing.
[01:01:39] Keith: Not the opposite of that.
[01:01:41] Mike: Keith was trying to, you can see the relationship between the two words, but, but ingenuous is not, he was trying to use ingenuous as if it was the exact opposite of disingenuous and it's not, that's all.
[01:01:41] Ally: When you think of disingenuous as being you know not innocent, like you are hiding something, you are, I don't know, like, yeah. yeah
[01:01:54] Keith: Yes, but importantly, ah whatever, I've already vindicated myself here.
[01:01:55] Ally: Yeah.
[01:01:57] Mike: I know, I know. Look, I was just trying to, yeah, just trying to make sure people knew.
[01:02:03] Keith: Yeah, I've been with heaven forbid. Aren't we not educate our area listeners?
[01:02:08] Mike: Look, there's like two people who listen to this. that There's two, there's maybe even three people that listen to this show that would be like, wait, why didn't Mike jump in on that one?
[01:02:14] Keith: I know you're right.
[01:02:15] Mike: And I want them to know that I was trying to be polite.
[01:02:16] Keith: You're right. You're right. I have some love friends and family members at grammar Nazi every episode too.
[01:02:18] Ally: No.
[01:02:21] Keith: So anyway, that will do it for this episode of your mileage may vary.
[01:02:21] Mike: Yes, there you go.
[01:02:22] Ally: school
[01:02:23] Keith: You can send us feedback or questions to Y M M V pod at gmail dot.com. That's Y M M V pod at gmail dot.com. We're particularly interested in feedback on Ali. Uh, yeah, right.
[01:02:35] Ally: And dick pics. Send me dick pics.
[01:02:37] Keith: Yeah.
[01:02:37] Mike: so
[01:02:38] Keith: We're still looking for dick pics. We pay $10.
[01:02:39] Mike: She's still looking for someone to beat her up too, but nobody wants to do that.
[01:02:41] Ally: That's you.
[01:02:41] Keith: Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Any of those YMMVPod at gmail dot.com. We pay $10 for any and all feedback received. Uh, just let us know, Venmo or whatever. Thanks for listening and we'll catch you next week on your mileage may vary.

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